Album Rating: 3.0

@Irony Honestly, unless I watch in-studio footage during the recording (it's probably on the deluxe BluRay but don't have access to a rip currently) and can see what the recording space & gear are like, I really can't say other than taking sensible guesses that either or both of the following happened. 1) They decided to record the album in as few takes possible; they've done "shot in one take" recordings through the years (most infamously Shokubeni '09) and bank on post-production mixing & overdubbing fixing every flub/flaw (this definitely supports the notion they rushed the album) or 2) simply put, all of the band & their recordist had a mega fail of lapse of judgment.



Going back to the current discussion 'bout Kisou. I think it's great but for me, there'll be a string of excellent songs (in this case I'll use Bottom of the death valley & embryo as an example) but then comes either the Shinsou interludes or an (IMO) average song that totally ruins the flow/momentum of the album. Maybe it's just me, but the Shinsou songs feel out of place with the rest of the album even with the few songs I thought were average at best.

Album Rating: 2.0

Kisou is a mix from what I remember. Better than TIW but not really something I'd ever go back to. Honestly everything other than Uroboros-DSS-Arche is fairly inconsistent, though there are some good moments on most of their albums.

Album Rating: 3.0

I dunno, there's definitely a few below average songs pre-Uroboros but all but one of the pre-Uroboros albums range from great to excellent IMO. Yep, w/the benefit of time and relistening, I think Marrow's a pretty good if not mostly one-dimensional album but I think that was the intent. The only close to clunker album besides TIW is Macabre. I've mentioned it in the past, but that album has some of the best songs (of the pre-Vulgar era) but also most of their worst songs are on there too.

Album Rating: 2.0

The 2013 remake of the title track is one of their absolute best songs but the album is very inconsistent. Easily Kyo's worst vocal performance too.

Album Rating: 3.5

Yall forgetting Gauze, album is near flawless

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

IronyIsADeadScene is factually wrong imo.

Album Rating: 3.5

I have to spin Gauze again one of these days.

Album Rating: 3.0

I don’t spin Gauze as much as I do considering I regard it as being one of the best albums of that late ‘90s/early 00s era of that music scene.

Album Rating: 2.5

I like Kisou and Gauze more than DSS tbh. Kisou is actually right behinfd Uroboros for me. Its pretty weird sounding Industrial Rock. Guaze has Mask which alone makes it amazing.

DSS is way too long imo. With many songs just sounding similar. When I first heard the album I remember being fatigued halfway through it. There's too much heaviness with little let up from what I remember. Eventually the riffs start sounding the same and like a heavy indistinguishable blob.

Also, the single version of "Hageshisa..." Is superior to the DSS version.

Album Rating: 2.5

I kinda feel that way too. Plus Diabolos kinda sounds like a boring retry at what they perfected with Vinushka. Its also got more repetitive chuggy sections than Uroboros and I really dont care for how its production is more polished. I still like the album but it kind of feels like a bit of a drag to get through. Id place everything aside from this album and Macabre over DSS, I still need to return to Vulgar though so maybe that one too depending on if I like it more than when I initially heard it.

Album Rating: 3.0

“Also, the single version of "Hageshisa..." Is superior to the DSS version.”



Definitely.

Well, don't get me wrong, DSS still has some awesome songs. Vanitas is a beautiful song, for example. I liked the symphonic version of Amon better than the one on the original album. Go listen to that. it's fucking fantastic. super underrated.

Album Rating: 2.0

I agree that Uroboros is better than DSS but I wouldn't really describe DSS as unrelentingly heavy. There's a lot of atmospheric and melodic stuff going on there like the chorus/solo of Different Sense and the song Lotus, it's not like it's Effigy of the Forgotten or something. There is definitely an issue with excessive chugs instead of good riffing, but that absolutely plagued TMOAB, TIW, and a good chunk of the rest of their discography as well, so that's hardly a criticism of that specific album. It's funny to think how awesome songs like Ruten No Tou would have sounded with ODSM riffs instead of chugs in the heavy sections, but it's a solid album regardless.



I don't know why I don't like Gauze more given how much I like Mr. Bungle and FNM and their perverted take on pop, but as I recall Kyo's vocals weren't as strong then and I disliked the glam elements.

Album Rating: 2.5

I havent listened to MOAB in a long time but I do remember it being more tastefully chuggy with all of its immature raw fun as opposed to the boring polished chugs of DSS. Still though MOAB isnt an album of theirs id put in the top 5 DEG.



Funny because I love GAUZE and find Mr. Bungle and FNM annoying.

Album Rating: 3.5

MOAB takes a while to get used to, but once it clicks, it's underrated as fuck. Took me years to warm up to it, but i agree, it's def not top 5 DEG.

Album Rating: 3.0

I find that most of DEG’s discography translate better live than in the studio but with that said, I enjoy listening to albums like Vulgar and Withering to death. from start to finish despite their muddy production (which IMO was fixed when they remastered those songs that made it onto Vestige Of Scratches).

Album Rating: 2.5

MOAB was actually pretty instant for me. Used to put Clever Sleazoid and Repition of Hatred on repeat back in my final year of high school.

Album Rating: 3.0

Marrow grew on me overtime but that came about after I became a fan of other bands similar to that album’s style (pre-reunion Daughters, Dillinger, Converge, Botch and Cult Leader being the best examples).

I just finished re-listening to TIW for the first time in almost a year just to see how I feel about it now that I given the benefit of time...honestly, it wasn’t that bad of a listen IMO. I do stand by my sentiments that the songwriting is their worst since Macabre and both it and the production feels half assed that they should’ve taken their time w/this album instead of rushing it. I can’t imagine scoring it higher than a 3 right now so I think my current rating still stands.