Album Rating: 3.5

it's a great album yeah

Album Rating: 5.0

i find it more like impressive than pleasurable to listen to ya dig

Album Rating: 3.5

it has some great songs like stem/long stem, building steam, midnight, napalm brain, etc etc

endtroducing is trip hop. its just not definitively trip hop. its instrumental hip hop/trip hop/electronic. stuff like mezz and dummy are purely and definitively trip hop. so thats another reason why it has always and forever will be stupid to talk about endtroducing when discussing quintessential trip hop.

that being said i agree with chuck that conceptually its more impressive than it is actually pleasurable to listen to. truer words have not ever been spoken.

Donuts is kind of like that for me too tbh.

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah i ultimately agree on that

Dummy and Mezz and shit are the opposite, they are just extremely and overwhelmingly pleasurable which is what true trip hop is all about for me.

Album Rating: 5.0

ye

Album Rating: 3.5

i never found this stuff pleasurable or catchy, but idk why. something throws me off, maybe it's the production (weird tho, but i like their production in their most recent ep wayy more)



dissolved girl, angel, risingson and inertia are all jams tho

Album Rating: 4.0

Third is much more experimental to be labeled as trip hop, it's much differt than their other stuff, It's more of a experimental rock/electronic album tbh, the trip hop on there is really minimal and it's just mixed with the 25892 things that are going on that album.

also when talking about the 'impressiveness' of endtroducing as early plunderphonics / entirely sample based music i think people start to take for granted how impressive early trip hop groups that had full bands were as well. like yeah that kind of sampling was especially innovative for the time for endtroducing but also integrating live sampling and electronics with full bands during that time was equally innovative and impressive.

"Third is much more experimental to be labeled as trip hop"

lmao trip hop is experimental by nature. thats literally a definitive quality of what trip hop is as a genre.

"it's much differt than their other stuff,"

this isnt an argument for or against it not being trip hop

"It's more of a experimental rock/electronic album "

so its trip hop.

"the trip hop on there is really minimal and it's just mixed with the 25892 things that are going on that album. "

yeah trip hop doesnt always sound exactly the same, which may come as a surprise considering it originates from an experimental approach to fusing electronic and hip hop with literally like every other genre under the sun from weird bossa nova shit to alt rock.

there is literally not a single thing about Third that isn't trip hop.

Album Rating: 4.0

not sounding like any trip hop most likely means it's not trip hop or atleast only a trip hop album, pretty sure the band themselves said it departs from their trip hop sound.

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

What is "Third"?

Album Rating: 3.5

literal definition vs conglomerate definition

Album Rating: 4.0

it's pretty weird listen to it anyway asdfap288

"not sounding like any trip hop most likely means it's not trip hop or atleast only a trip hop album"

oh it does sound like trip hop. in fact it sounds exactly like trip hop in every way possible. also genres develop over time too believe it or not so expecting a trip hop album in 2008 to sound exactly the same as one in 1994 is just flat out stupid. do you think hip hop sounds the same as it did in '94? trip hop has evolved further since 2008 as well and although it largely doesn't sound the same (obviously, because that is just a flat out obvious thing) it is still definitively trip hop in its stylings, influences, and processes. you can use the exact same definition for what makes trip hop what it is for 2016 trip hop as you can for early 90's trip hop and it is just as unambiguous.

"literal definition vs conglomerate definition"

no, its just a definition. trip hop is defined by certain things, just like every fucking single other genre is. and third fits those qualities 100%. i understand what you are trying to get at but making up terms like 'conglomerate definition' doesn't make you look smart tbh. it just makes you look like you are trying really hard to look smart. but essentially what you said is meaningless. the 'literal definition' (lol) of trip hop conglomerates a number of many different things into a group. these things can continue to be distinct. that is how genres work.

Album Rating: 3.5

prescriptive vs descriptive