Album Rating: 5.0

"I was arguing with silly metalheads recently about it so I just wanna bump in and remind everyone that this is in fact metalcore. K thx 😎

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It was a dumb argument twenty years ago and it's dumb now.



Who fuckin' cares.

Breakdowns must equal metalcore. No breakdowns in thrash or death metal ;)

Album Rating: 5.0

they peaked so fucking hard on this it's insane

Album Rating: 3.0

it's an argument about genre not morals or anything like that so I don't even understand the hostility to something being labeled "metalcore" unless you're still a big baby about "poser metal" for some reason. The opening to Laid to Rest is the biggest "'04 metalcore" sound ever. They're obviously groove metal but a whole lot of this is core.

Album Rating: 4.0

Band is definitely metalcore

Album Rating: 3.0

YEAHH

Album Rating: 4.0

I can understand calling them metalcore in the strictest sense, since there’s a bit of hardcore influence in their sound on the first few records, but calling them “‘04 metalcore” sort of belies the fact that their sound is a bit different than the standard 2nd wave melodic metalcore most of their peers were doing in the mid 00s. For starters, there’s a lot more Phrygian and blue/chromatic passing tones here than riffs that stick exclusively to melodic/harmonic minor. I do think they did quite a good job of synthesising characteristics of a few at that point disparate subgenres, and a lot of their wider appeal at the time was a direct result of that.

Album Rating: 4.3

Who the hell cares bros???? Lol

Album Rating: 4.0

God forbid someone discuss music on a website devoted to discussing music.

Album Rating: 4.3

I mean we can talk about how much it rules instead of having a stupid debate about if it is/isn't metalcore lol.

Album Rating: 3.0

it doesn't need to strictly sound like those other bands in the strictest sense tho, but that sound is enmeshed in their songwriting.

Album Rating: 4.0

Metalcore is whatever I say it is

Album Rating: 3.0

yeah! but for me

Album Rating: 3.5

I never used to understood calling this band metalcore, to me they just never sounded like/felt like the other metalcore bands from the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nowadays I would say they are predominantly "groove metal" (btw never liked this name, i think of it as slow thrash lol) but I can see metalcore as an additional descriptor. I still couldn't call them solely metalcore though hahah

Album Rating: 3.0

not solely no but it's a significant aspect of their sound. Chimaira are a little more overtly core but it's the same with them.

Album Rating: 4.0

Lining up heavy sets on squats so we come up during the “We’ll never get out of this hole” breakdown in Something to Die For is PEAK lads

Album Rating: 4.3

This was my first squatting album fr

Lamb of God and Chinaira always sounded pretty distinct from the other popular metalcore bands of that era (Killswitch, Parkway Drive, August Burns Red, etc…).

People sometimes label them as Groove Metal but that doesn’t really feel right either

Album Rating: 4.0

I think the term back when was post-thrash. Or NWOAHM but Killswitch and All That Remains and them got thrown into that bucket too

Album Rating: 5.0

I mean Chris Adler refers to them as a "speed metal" band on the Sacrament documentary.