Modest Mouse We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank
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theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Wrapping up the third listen... I do like the last few songs but tracks 7-11 on here is maybe the weakest run on any of the MM stuff I've heard... Opening run is pretty spotty too.

DoofDoof
May 10th 2019


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I like 'Fly Trapped' and have a soft spot for 'Little Motel'



The flow of the first 6 tunes is quite addictive for me, I used to think 'Missed the Boat' was an absolute classic back in 2007 - not quite as keen on it now but it's still nice enough

DoofDoof
May 10th 2019


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Just put up track ratings on RYM for both albums if you want to see where I'm coming from.

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

The first track starts up a little shaky but I do like the second half. "Dashboard" is trying to be the same thing "Float On" was I guess but it has an oddly generic late-00s pop melody (we're talking top 40 pop). "Fire It Up" is ok, "Florida" is good but doesn't quite hang together. "Sensory" is great", "Boat" too, not a classic but one of the best here for sure. Takes a dive after that though... Hoping for some growth but I'm not too optimistic.



Listening to Good News now and idk, it immediately sounds better. The middle section of that one did grow on me a lot though so maybe that weak section on this one will as well. It just doesn't sound like the band is having a whole lot of fun on this one.

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Also, would anybody know Johnny Marr was on this album if they didn't make a big deal about it?

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Looks like the big differences between us on Good News are I like "Salty" (my fave on the album) and the last few tracks as well as the oddities of "Workday" and "Satin" a lot more. I've got Good News track rated on RYM too, check mine.

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

On "Bury Me With It" on Good News now and that seems to be the song they took the most from on this album, especially in the vocal style... Accordingly that's one of my least faves on News but it's better than a lot here, much hookier, more fun.



I also scanned the lyrics to this album on this past listen and they're definitely Isaac's weakest to that point.

DoofDoof
May 10th 2019


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah, I never liked 'Salty' too much for some reason, always came across a bit insipid and indistinct for me melodically (or I might just not like those melodies I'm not sure) - I was surprised to hear it was a single and most people's favourite.



'Bukowski' is my top pick on 'Good News', and I really like 'Bury Me with It' so maybe that's why I like the style here too :/

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Bukowski" is my second fave. I don't really dislike anything on that, even "Dance Hall" has a certain charm to it. Either way though the first three albums are king, that's pretty undeniable. I've got both TLCW and TMAA on the 5 now so that pretty much makes these guys a top 10 band or close to it.

Larkinhill
May 10th 2019


8315 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

@TheBoneyKing — honestly I thought the same thing at first. That this was their worst. But this is a huge grower and now I love it. Just FYI because I know you haven’t gotten to it, but Strangers to Ourselves is also a grower. I now consider Good News to be their worst (still a 3.5 tho).



Spitting Venom is amazing and top 5 MM.

Larkinhill
May 10th 2019


8315 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I do like the last few songs but tracks 7-11 on here is maybe the weakest run on any of the MM stuff I've heard..



Completely agree with this — We’ve Got Everything, Fly Trapped, Education and Steam Engenius are pretty mediocre overall. That said, Little Motel is a fantastic song.

DoofDoof
May 10th 2019


17371 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm near enough 100% with you on all that Larkinhill



This is a grower and the Modest Mouse you reach for when you want a more conventional, and I guess 'fun', hot weather indie pop sort of listen.



And 'Strangers' beats 'Good News' for me too

theBoneyKing
May 10th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Alright - will try to hold back judgment for a few more spins, was almost ready to throw a hasty 2 on this but that's not my nature.

Larkinhill
May 10th 2019


8315 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Yeah man, give it a few more shots. I was like you (not quite a 2 tho) at first, then grew to love it. Even Spitting Venom and Little Motel, which are my favorites here, had to grow on me. They weren’t completely immediate. It’s cool if you end up not liking it obviously, but give it a chance.



I will say I do not like Dashboard tho. March Into the Sea, Fire It Up, Florida, Parting and Missed the Boat Are all great though.

Cormano
May 10th 2019


4496 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

People as Places as People is also one of the best ones

rarely gets talked about

Larkinhill
May 10th 2019


8315 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Great song, agreed. I think it just gets a bit overshadowed coming right after Venom, but it’s really good. That opening guitar line is one of my favorite moments on the album.

JohnnyoftheWell
May 10th 2019


64287 Comments


I know the rest of the song is pretty lame, but any love for the bridge in We've Got Everything? Always stands out as one of my favourite bits here

dctarga
May 10th 2019


1812 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I've always enjoyed We've Got Everything quite a bit, but yeah this one was a grower for sure. Also agree with Spitting Venom being top tier MM

Lucman
May 10th 2019


5537 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah I'm with you Boney, album is a good deal weaker than Good News.

theBoneyKing
May 13th 2019


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Alright, this is growing on me...fuck this band lol



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