i think david bowie and elvis presley were involved with minors (?

idk

what makes a thing 'moral grandstanding'? genuine question

also, yeah I want to believe in rehabilitation but surely you have to understand that people are gonna have some aprehensions regarding a predator continuing to have a platform catering to minors (?). Like, how do we make sure he's "rehabilitated"?

talking about "cancel culture" as a blanket set of behaviours doesn't help the discussion, as it encompasses a very wide variety of reactions to celebrities' actions. are we talking about someone having a bad day and yelling at a fast food employee, a celebrity in the throes of addiction, a sex offender, a murderer? like

I think his platform is catering to people that spend $35 on deconstructed burgers and drink beer that tastes like ass pennies

yea now if ur a predator u gotta make trap

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'moral grandstanding' is when you clown on a child predator who only did it because he was a smol lil bean

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“just meant from a perspective of like not supporting weirdos or predators, all those bands were full of em.”



Well that went right over my head.



@asdfp277

None of that is about Jesse, talk all the shit in the world about him, he deserves it and like I said I’m not even going to the show because when I really sat down and thought about it, yeah I realized that it didn’t sit right with me. I’m strictly talking about making people who are going to the shows feel shitty. I don’t think it’s deserved.

"I’m strictly talking about making people who are going to the shows feel shitty."

yeah, i think overall people itt know what you're talking about. it's just that they disagree.

"I don’t think it’s deserved."

i don't know if making people "feel shitty" is necessarily my intention, but I do implore people to not support stuff if that's going to contribute to a problem like that, i.e. not supporting jk rowling because her money directly harms trans people, etc. In a way, if you're aware that your support harms people like that, wouldn't that make you a bad person though?

(i don't want to push u to keep replying btw -- if you feel like it's upsetting you, given ur previous health issues, you might want to reconsider continuing the conversation, for ur own health)

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the bad faith framing to justify enforcing boycott and controlling people, not to mention attacking and slandering them, for buying a fucking Harry Potter book or going to see Brand New makes you a bad person from how I see it

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What's the bad faith framing? You're supporting a nonce by going. You just seem mad that it's being pointed out.



Also, it's funny that you're using words like "enforce" and "control" lol. I guess nobody should ever advocate for anything because otherwise it's "enforcement" and "control." Nobody's stopping you from going. Goofy ass argument.

how is it bad faith?

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the behavior here goes way beyond 'advocate' lol but just more misrepresentation of what is actually going on here which I think Wildcard already pointed out earlier in regards to another - typical

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trash band. agreed

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Ah yes I love framing the morally bankrupt clowns supporting the child groomer while he returns to the stage that enabled him to once groom children in bad faith

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going to a concert doesn’t make someone morally bankrupt jesus fucking christ man

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going to a concert doesnt do that. but supporting a known sex pest doesn't help.

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i'd go see a bowie show if he came back

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so would i cause i would wanna know how he came back to life



:O



lol

I'm gonna read my Harry Potter books at the brand new show

xD