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oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


"it's a bit like "let's have a toast for the douchebags.""

Eh, don't really find it comparable, that song is very blatantly portraying Kanye as an unlikable piece of shit, there's nothing glamorous about it, I wish I had the same benefit of doubt about this song as others seem to but just going off everything I know about Charli and this album cycle it feels tongue in cheek at best but with no real purpose or commentary

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


And I'm not suggesting I or anyone else can only enjoy music that aligns perfectly with their morals but personally speaking I finding it off-putting

AmericanFlagAsh
June 18th 2024


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

The actual song itself says or does nothing problematic tho, it's just that people know it's about Dasha that puts them off

ReefaJones
June 18th 2024


4069 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I looked her up and she just seems like your typical champagne socialist that profits from the "eat the rich" aesthetic while making millions of dollars on patreon.



love this quote from her wiki:



"Nekrasova is a self-described "Slovak Ruthenian Carpatho-Rusyn Greek" Eastern Catholic.[32][33][34][35][36] In a 2020 interview, Nekrasova stated:



Catholicism is nice because it involves a whole body of work outside of the Bible—it's a very aesthetic, literary religion. My faith is just something that's improved the quality of my life, my thoughts, and my relationships [...] What's so great about faith is that it doesn't have to be grounded in rational thought. We are seeing a lot of people return to religion because everything feels so senseless and pointless, so why not be a Catholic?[34]"



Even religion seems to be all about the aesthetic for her lol.



What's the controversy about her? Just being edgy?

Asdfp277
June 18th 2024


25735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

the mean girls song doesn't describe 'mean girls' as actually being mean, idk i thought it might be about girls everybody assumes to be mean but are not necessarily (?



i know a few girls like that, people always assume stuff about them, so i liked the song for that reason lol

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


19077 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

yeah that's how i took it too

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I didn't realize she literally says "hedonistic," which to me kind of defangs the impact of any actual hedonism (?) on display

Asdfp277
June 18th 2024


25735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

why?

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


Yeah that doesn't make any sense to me, calling something what it is doesn't change the fact it is that thing

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


"The actual song itself says or does nothing problematic tho, it's just that people know it's about Dasha that puts them off"

I was grossed out by it before I knew who it was about

Asdfp277
June 18th 2024


25735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

r u a marina stan by any chance

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

"You say she's anorexic, and you heard she likes when people say it /

Think you already know her, but you don't"



This does enough for me, though reading the lyrics they're mostly just uninteresting



I think most artists really trying to embody hedonism dont want to evince the kind of introspection that usually comes along with actually calling things, even yourself, "hedonistic". when I hear "hedonistic" I think critique, not endorsement

AlexKzillion
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


19077 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

guys idk i think mean girls is a song the girls are gonna put on and say "omggggg this is literally us" i don't think its meant for this sort of analysis.

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


@Asdfp no this pfp was picked like 9 years ago and I've just never bothered to change it, Marina's lyrics in the last few years are worse than anything Charli could dream of writing

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

yeah thats the thing, all of this combines with the bop aspect. "it makes you think, but even moreso it makes you want to dance!" --my eighth grade english teacher, about "inner city blues"

Odal
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't know why a song like "Mean Girls" -which is pretty dang self aware- would cause such a stir while gesturing towards vague feelings of feeling like a bad bitch lol Just give us a strut and pop your hip. It really ain't that deep

Asdfp277
June 18th 2024


25735 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

well i don't see myself as 'mean' that way so i struggle to strut along !

Drifter
June 18th 2024


21718 Comments


"I looked her up and she just seems like your typical champagne socialist that profits from the "eat the rich" aesthetic while making millions of dollars on patreon."

you mean she's making money off her own labor? don't see the issue

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


You can't be "eat the rich" while being a millionaire

Odal
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

man, this thread was doing so well too lol



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