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Love how he judged the entire album to be ~5/19 of a Mozart symphony after listening to the first track once.

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I never said it was your point, but my point still stands ;)

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But their only inherent value is compositional, whether they actually succeed in creating emotion is dependent on the listener. If the listener doesn't feel 'power and emotion' as a result from key changes and modulations, they aren't wrong in that.



Which I kinda feel is what you are trying to say - that emotion exists objectively in the above pieces, and that you just need a knowledge of composition to appreciate it.



Again, I really think most people's appreciation of classical music is on an analytic level. Look at the comments on that Tchaikovsky video... "wow, this must have taken AGES to write... amazing structural organisation... very carefully put together..." etcetera etcetera. It's the same as pointing to a tall building and gushing over it as a feat of mathematics and resources, without actually considering whether the building is beautiful or not.

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NO ONE GIBVES A FUCK ABOUT SOME CLASSIC SHIT MADE 500 YEARS AGO YOU GOOK AS FUCCBOI

@negator can we not appreciate both?

Also, this might be "one guy" but this one guy has more at his fingertips than any classical composer ever had. Also, it's not like the orchestra had any input towards the final piece

Album Rating: 3.5

"more complexity, stronger atmosphere, more diverse and powerful climaxes, a far more refined chord structure, more melodies that still relate to each other better, etc"



This is his first official album, and it also happens to be ambient. It's basically Aphex-lite. So if you're going to make that argument and draw comparisons between a revered 18th century classical composer and the modern gawd of IDM/braindance/terriblegenrename (which is both ludicrous based on the difference in style of music and inadvertently a pretty big complement to the guy you're trying to discredit) at least pit it against his less ambient stuff maybe.

Album Rating: 5.0

@choco of course, we can. But not in this absurd way that wbna is trying to.

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and the man was 14 years old when he made this album. i wanna see mozart do that shit. lol

True. They're incomparable and this is now just petty

Album Rating: 3.5

Pretty sure Mozart was a child prodigy. He was doing big things at a young age too.

Erm... Mozart was composing when he was 5 and played to European royalty at the same age as RDJ when this came out...

Album Rating: 5.0

holy shit

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And little Richard was tearing electronics apart and making his own synthesizers and shit when he was seven or something. Both seemed pretty advanced at a young age, both altered the musical landscape of the time, have an extensive body of work and are pretty outstanding in their own right.

Album Rating: 5.0

I think you should relisten to it wba. Im listening to it now and its a truly relaxing and soothing song. Intricate and beautiful in its own, non-classical right. Theres nothing complex about it or modulative nor innovative. And i'd disagree with anyone who says they find Xtal to be emotionless, its filled with it. Hidden between the ticks, locked up under the hum of the woman. It's there.

Listened to it again and I honestly can't hear any of the emotion you were talking about. It's relaxing and that's it really

Album Rating: 5.0

try 1:50, i love that womans voice. Sounds like an angel teaching me something i've forgotten.

Album Rating: 4.5

really with Negator on this one

"Never got into BoC. It's just not my preferred taste for electronica as it's too repetitive IMO. The slight changes just don't do anything for me and it doesn't help that the dynamics are lacking, which is something i believe is important in emotional music"

Choccy, I swear me and you must have completely the opposite taste in electronic music. You seem to look for a lot of detail in electronic music in order to find something of interest to latch on to (I'm not just going by what you've said in this thread, I've seen you say stuff in the past like "needs more samples to be interesting"). I personally place more importance on emotional connection which I feel is much more apparent in electronic music that is given space to breathe and relies more on atmosphere than obvious, in your face dynamics.

Which is why I have to disagree with you on pretty much everything you've said in his thread regarding what's emotional and what isn't and also your idea of dynamics. BoC are very dynamic just perhaps not in the way that appeals to you.

Just a few thoughts that sprang to mind upon reading your comments in this thread. :]

haha yeah, i was gonna bring up the sample thing again. I just like a lot going on in my electronic music and for it to be sonically interesting, and both this and BoC is not.

As for emotion, it feels too planned out to have any emotion tbh. In my humble opinion :]

This and particularly BoC are most definitely sonically interesting (to my ears anyway).

"As for emotion, it feels too planned out to have any emotion tbh."br />

I can't see that at all, if anything I find that electronic music with a lot going on seems more planned and calculated and generally conveys less emotion that something more open and expansive like this.