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Artuma
October 26th 2013


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

actually everything post-scenes is better than fii except for the s/t imo

tempest--
October 26th 2013


20634 Comments


even systematic? dam

JamieTwort
October 26th 2013


26988 Comments


FII has much more character than any of their post-Scenes albums. 6 Degrees is the only one that comes close.

Artuma
October 26th 2013


32828 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

"even systematic? dam"



yeah. sc has the worst songs dt has ever made (forsaken and constant motion) but itpoe and ministry are both awesome

JS19
October 26th 2013


7777 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

The solo in Constant Motion is all right. I think I Walk Beside You, The Dark Eternal Night, Build Me Up, Break Me Down and You Not Me are all fighting for worst DT song tbh

manosg
Emeritus
October 27th 2013


12715 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

FII has much more character than any of their post-Scenes albums. [2]

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 27th 2013


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

FII is underrated, but almost all the other albums are still better, even SC



The thing about SC is that most of the songs have some great sections, but also have horrible parts to every song too (EX. last 5 minutes of Repentance, the vocals in Dark Eternal Night and In The Presence of Enemies, all of Constant Motion except for the solo, and all of Forsaken and Prophets of War (which ripped off Muse)).

JamieTwort
October 27th 2013


26988 Comments


lol Systematic Chaos isn't even close to Falling Into Infinity. They're in completely different leagues.

TalonsOfFire
Emeritus
October 27th 2013


21029 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Of course they sound different, they're at completely opposite ends of DT's sound, softer-prog rock/metal and heavier

more extreme prog metal of SC & BL&SL. But they're both among the worst DT albums, they have the same amount of

problems. FII has You Not Me and Burning My Soul as the worst songs, SC has Forsaken and Prophets of War. Both albums

also have a lot of filler, but they also each have some great songs too. FII has Hells Kitchen, New Millenium, Peruvian

Skies, Lines in the Sand and Trial of Tears. SC has Ministry of Lost Souls, Repentance, ITPOE, and Dark Eternal Night.

JamieTwort
October 27th 2013


26988 Comments


I didn't mean they sound different (although they do) I meant FII is among their top 5 albums while SC is their worst. One rules, one sucks, that's what I meant by different leagues.

JamieTwort
October 27th 2013


26988 Comments


Hey Cap, not much bro, listening to Witxes - Sorcery/Geography on vinyl.

dante1991
October 29th 2013


764 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Interesting reading the discussion about FII.



I think while the high points are really good-excellent (Lines in the Sand, Trail of Tears etc) it's pretty inconsistent and has some of their worst songs (You Not Me, Take Away My Pain, Burning My Soul).



I do like the atmosphere it has though (when it gets it right), no DT album since has matched that

Davil667
October 31st 2013


4075 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yes, the atmosphere transported by FII is fantastic. It gives me chills every time I listen to Hell's Kitchen and Lines in the Sand.

Parallels
October 31st 2013


10216 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

wtf You Not Me and Burning My Soul are awesome

Davil667
October 31st 2013


4075 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah, they are indeed!

Parallels
October 31st 2013


10216 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

luv the original demo version of Burning My Soul where Hell's Kitchen is the solo

Davil667
October 31st 2013


4075 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Just got the demo version of the album today. Looking forward to listening...

Parallels
October 31st 2013


10216 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Did you find the one with Metropolis Pt.2 as a rough demo? It's amazing that it was actually written during the same time as FII

Davil667
October 31st 2013


4075 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yes, I think it's the last track on it. Can't wait ;)

tempest--
November 1st 2013


20634 Comments


"wtf You Not Me and Burning My Soul are awesome"

god damn it



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