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MalleusMaleficarum
November 25th 2012


16396 Comments


the afi albums i have 5d = hardcore punk

jane doe = metalcore

Tikicobra
November 25th 2012


579 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I think it's kind of weird to point to someone's opinion of an album as a reason for why they can't be making a legitimate point about what genre a band is.

ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

and whether your denying it just to disagree with me or not, the first few converge releases are better classified as hardcore punk than metalcore. you can try to refute it for whichever strange reason you choose but it's just true

MalleusMaleficarum
November 25th 2012


16396 Comments


interestingly enough

foxblood
November 25th 2012


11159 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol wtf

ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

screamo is an offshoot of hardcore punk



jane doe has metalcore/mathcore elements, but is a hardcore punk album at it's core more than

anything, if you think I'm the only person who believes this youre an idiot



and afi is fucking garbage, also not nearly the only person who thinks so but you can pretend im the

only person whose ever criticized them lol

MalleusMaleficarum
November 25th 2012


16396 Comments


screamo is an offshoot of hardcore punk but jane doe is metalcore so fuck off you have no argument lol

afi has made more hardcore punk than converge

converge is a metalcore band

converge is your favorite screamo band cool

i dont give a fuck if you dont like afi it doesnt change the fact that you cant tell one genre from the other


ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i don't care if AFI has made 'more hardcore punk than converge', I've heard two early AFI records, I disliked both of them, anything else I've heard from them has been off Decemberunderground which is laughable shit



and yea, converge isn't a screamo band, their not my favorite screamo band because that would be impossible



they are my favorite hardcore band though



and its not an argument, jane doe is a hardcore punk album with elements of metalcore and noisy grind thrown into it's framework

Tikicobra
November 25th 2012


579 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I still don't see how the fact that you don't like them automatically makes Malleus' argument invalid

because he does. That wouldn't even make sense if this argument had anything to do with that album.

ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

his argument isn't invalid because he likes AFI



his argument is invalid because the fact that early Converge is hardcore punk isn't debatable

foxblood
November 25th 2012


11159 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

grind?

Aids
November 25th 2012


24518 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

"more hardcore punk than it is metalcore "



the reason I keep "laughing it off" is because you keep saying this. do you not understand why this is a ridiculous thing to say?

ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

its not a ridiculous thing to say, it's what the album is, jesus are you people from another planet



ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

@foxblood phoenix in flames and concubine borrow heavily from grind yea

ThunderNeutral21
November 25th 2012


3863 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

lol you people are making it out like nobody has ever said this before am i being punked or something holy shit

Aids
November 25th 2012


24518 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

ugh ok you are clearly a retard so i will break this down for you



you can't say jane doe is MORE hardcore punk then it is metalcore because BY DEFINITION metalcore is the combination of hardcore and metal. they are a 1st wave metalcore band (I think) so their sound is more rooted in the hardcore sound than in the more melodic and metal oriented sound of later waves.



you can't compare something by saying whether it is "more hardcore" or "more metalcore" because one is a branch of the other





GiaNXGX
November 25th 2012


5440 Comments


I agree with aids.

XingKing
November 25th 2012


16170 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I wish this album was called A Heart Filled Reaction to Dissatisfaction instead. I feel like I should rip that name and just call one of my albums that.



It's insane to think the drummer went on to join Darkest Hour.

Adabelle
November 25th 2012


4425 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Classiccc





ffs
November 25th 2012


6246 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

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