Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah sorry, I should specify, it's mainly Davey that seems to downplay the first two albums. The others seem to enjoy it. I know Jade in particular has stated in interviews that he enjoys playing the early material live.

Album Rating: 3.0 | Sound Off

I don't freaking know anyone in the band by name other than Davey. I def rememnber Jade so I am going to look up the old line up. Maybe Hunter but he is current so. I felt like they had a change at some point. And maybe it was Jade pushing for a more "Sing the Sorrow" feel. That album rules but just haha I like the albums around that time. This album ain't great anyway.

Album Rating: 4.0

To the guy who said Jade was not tight... Jade was always tight. He was doing guitar spins in the middle of songs and shit. You can't accuse him of being a bad guitarist. He had some of the most iconic underrated riffs of the early 2000s

Album Rating: 3.5

@artiswar technically I didn't say Jade isn't tight, just that Mark is tighter ;)



Never said he was a bad guitarist either. Trust me, I know all about Jade's guitar and songwriting achievements, he's probably the main reason I started playing guitar many, many years ago.

Album Rating: 4.0

I literally started learning guitar because of Jade and cut my teeth on AFI. Maybe my favourite band