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Epilogue
August 10th 2007


1841 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I dont think I should be doing this but...

Edit: BTW, someone teach me how to drop the f-bomb without it getting censored. Please.


Italic the u in it, thats what every one does.

Except for the ones who hated it.


He does have a point, lots and lots of old Metallica fans dropped out when they heard this album, rattlehead.

thesystemisdown
August 10th 2007


416 Comments


Yeah, I've noticed that if you argue in a way that doesn't make opinions seem like they can be proved or disproved simply on the basis that they're popular, you can find common ground. Anyway, I guess we're good now, but I really don't think Rust in Peace is that good. Maybe as good as Kill Em All.

I think the difference between Megadeth and Metallica is that Megadeth is a very technical, thrashy, fast, aggressive and focused band, but those elements were all sort of loosely constructed around a hollow core, like an empty pinata. With Metallica's early stuff, you get all those elements, except they're actually built around a more emotionally appealing center, like the candy in a pinata. Metallica's cool riffs, solos, breaks, etc. are natural progressions of the main focus of the song. Megadeth had all the elements in place, but Metallica wins out in my book. Megadeth never did anything as dramatic, compelling or interesting as, respectively, "For Whom The Bell Tolls," "One" or "And Justice For All." I do agree that on their thrashy songs like "Master of Puppets" or "Holy Wars," Megadeth and Metallica are pretty close.

muchtallerthanu
August 10th 2007


648 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

I voted. T2 is a classic btw


Just throwing this out there, but Paris Hilton banged the kid from T2.



...



Stop the presses. :rolleyes:

rattlehead42147
August 10th 2007


1345 Comments


wow dude as good as kill 'em all?
well the main reason most people are turned off by megadeth is the vocals. IMO megadeth had better solos and riffs, + marty friedman>kirk hammett any day. and look at metallica today, megadeth is still going strong.

haha another band everyone is turned off cause of the vocals: Nevermore. and once again one of my favorites

Altmer
August 10th 2007


5714 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

guys this album really just sucks, really

thesystemisdown
August 10th 2007


416 Comments


OK, better than Kill Em All, but not quite as good as Ride the Lightning. I don't really care for Megadeth's vocals but James isn't very good either. Come to think of it I can't recall any 80s vocalists that were very good. (I'm sure somebody will quickly prove me wrong but that's just as far as I can remember.)

Marty Friedman? I don't really know if he's that much more technically talented than Kirk, but Marty and Dave use their solos just as cues for the mosh pit, or to make things cooler. Kirk does the same thing on some of the songs, but many times the solos are used for artistic effect. And don't tell me Marty ever played ANYTHING as compelling as all of Kirk's work on "One."

Altmer
August 10th 2007


5714 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Bruce Dickinson? Rob Halford? Michael Kiske?

hard_rocker89
August 10th 2007


278 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Bruce Dickinson is awesome.This Message Edited On 08.10.07

thesystemisdown
August 10th 2007


416 Comments


OK, I stand corrected, I wasn't thinking about Iron Maiden. Yeah, Bruce Dickinson is good. I haven't heard much Judas Priest but I thought they were in the 70s. But whatever. I don't know who Michael Kiske is.

Mikesn
Emeritus
August 10th 2007


3707 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Helloween's old singer.



If you put in thrash...vocalist, you'd be almost right.This Message Edited On 08.10.07

thesystemisdown
August 10th 2007


416 Comments


Helloween is a good band, they've been overshadowed and nobody remembers them really. Shame. And who do you think is a good thrash vocalist?

Steerpike
August 10th 2007


1861 Comments


Come to think of it I can't recall any 80s vocalists that were very good.

John Bush, King Diamond, Dio, Danzig, Mike Patton, Marco Hietala.
but many times the solos are used for artistic effect.

Masturbating a pentatonic scale and shoving it through wah relentlessly is more artistic than Marty Friedman?

astrel
August 10th 2007


2615 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

when I masturbate it is pretty artsy.

thesystemisdown
August 10th 2007


416 Comments


Mike Patton was not really an 80s vocalist. Well, maybe he was, but I always thought he got started in the 90s. Whatever, I admit I couldn't really think of any good ones, but there are probably many that just didn't come to mind.

And Kirk Hammet uses scales, so what? Listen to the solo on "One" and tell me that's less interesting than Megadeth. Megadeth may have been technically superior to Metallica but Metallica is obviously the better band. Or rather was.

Steerpike
August 10th 2007


1861 Comments


And Kirk Hammet uses scales, so what?

He uses the same scales to the point where's it so bloody repetitive I could scream.
Listen to the solo on "One" and tell me that's less interesting than Megadeth.

It's less interesting than Megadeth. I've always found Kirk Hammet be a wanker. Especially live. Good god, he can't improv but he tries so damn hard anyway. Have you heard their live version of Fade to Black? I heard it on the radio a couple years back and by the time Kirk's impromptu solo ended and James started singing I contemplated throwing myself from the car.

Wizard
August 10th 2007


20629 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

You know your in trouble when Steerpike comes around!

Metallica's first 4 albums are solid, but Megadeth just has so many more memorable solo's and leads!

thesystemisdown
August 11th 2007


416 Comments


Well I can see that you are evaluating these guitarists based on a more technical system of criteria; not to be disparaging but that's what I think. Marty Freidman is good but I definitely enjoy Kirk Hammet more on some of the songs (not all of them, usually the ballads like "Fade to Black" or "One"). Maybe he is repetitive, and maybe this somehow makes me less qualified to judge music than you, but I happen to enjoy Metallica better, and also Kirk. I won't say anything about him live cause I don't know enough about him in that context to pass judgment.

Spamue1G
July 29th 2008


1291 Comments


I can understand thrash fans distress at this album. Trouble is, this one of the 2 Metallica albums I can listen to. If everyone has a band that they just don't 'get', like Radiohead, or Opeth (I don't think Opeth are quite as good as they are sold but I get them, and I love Radiohead), then Metallica is that band for me. MOP was borderline unlistenable for me, AJFR was an improvement, but still not enough at points, although it's my second favourite Metallica release. Then I enjoy this, I can understand the bashing, but it feels like it works.

The review was good, but I don't think you ever justified the score properly (unless the score is in comparison with the previous albums).



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