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Faraudo
June 18th 2024


5399 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

"Finally got the chance to sit down and listen to this and my god it’s so good"



You know ball



robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I stood in line for a movie next to dasha. someone went "dasha! dasha!" to someone next to me and I looked and she was next to me



never listened to that stuff tho

Ryus
June 18th 2024


37885 Comments


not looking forward to the sput redscare discourse

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

how much does colton like todd rundgod

Ryus
June 18th 2024


37885 Comments


hopefully a lot!

Ryus
June 18th 2024


37885 Comments


rundy deep dive def a music goal for this year
something anything has become one of my favorites of all time and i’m sure a wizard will be too once i spend more time w it

Mort.
June 18th 2024


26405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

ewww political podcasters ewwwww

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


If mean girls is supposed to be satire of some kind it's not very good at it, what exactly is the subversion of the attitude or personality displayed in the song supposed to be?

Also considering she is friends with Dasha who the song is confirmed to at least be inspired by I highly doubt it's a criticism of any kind, especially when she is ride or die for clowns like Matty Healy and Julia Fox

AmericanFlagAsh
June 18th 2024


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

You wanna turn this shit out



That's what I'm talking about

Mort.
June 18th 2024


26405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'If mean girls is supposed to be satire of some kind it's not very good at it, what exactly is the subversion of the attitude or personality displayed in the song supposed to be?'



nobody said it was a satire

AmericanFlagAsh
June 18th 2024


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Yeah it's not satire, it's just a song about being an "it girl" and it slaps

Mort.
June 18th 2024


26405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

'I think the lyrics on Mean Girls are pretty clearly a pastiche. She said in an interview she's more curious about the aesthetics of edgy culture than actively engaging with it. Like, yeah, there's a ton of valid criticisms of Dasha and Red Scare but there's an appeal that's there for a lot of people and the song is sorta celebrating that with a very surface level read. Don't think it's that big of a deal'



^ odal described it as a pastiche and not a satire. they are not the same thing



i personally wouldnt call it a pastiche, more just 'tongue in cheek' or ironic (which again, doesnt equal satirical)

AmericanFlagAsh
June 18th 2024


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Well the whole thing about this album is literally being a "brat"

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

isn't embodying a thing sometimes a more effective means of critique than an essay-style missive on why the thing is bad or problematic



doesnt pop sometimes just kinda hedonistically embody things even so, and it's good, even if you don't like the thing, because sometimes art allows us to engage perpendicular elements of our identity and desires at the same time



that said it's also true that you're allowed to find it lame and the lameness can be tied to what you want





Mort.
June 18th 2024


26405 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

woops my comment missed out a nt and said does rather than doesnt, edited it

oisincoleman64
June 18th 2024


2871 Comments


My bad for reading too quickly and mixing satire and pastiche up in my head, I still find it very gross and feel like the framing of it glorifies what she's talking about, not just on that song but scattered throughout the whole album, and the knowledge that it's all intentional and playing into the idea of being a "brat" doesn't change much because there is no meaningful commentary on it imo, you're not subversive for playing into a negative stereotype boldfaced, you've just become the negative stereotype

Odal
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


3129 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously. The chorus is "This on'es for all my mean girls".... it's a bit like "let's have a toast for the douchebags." It's basically a song about feeling like a bad bitch, and painting a fairly fantastical, stereotypical view of. "Worships Lana Del Rey in her Airpods, yeah/yeah she's in her mid-twenties, real intelligent" is hilarious

ReefaJones
June 18th 2024


4069 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Only time I ever heard of this Dasha person is because someone mentioned she's the girlfriend of Oneohtrix Point Never

robertsona
Emeritus
June 18th 2024


28661 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Is she really? Kind of makes sense. She used to date “Adam friedland”, I think, who my high school bff knows well, but that’s funny.



The discourse is heating up

AmericanFlagAsh
June 18th 2024


13689 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Didn't know who Dasha was until this song and still don't care, but yes Odal that line is low key a read, I love it



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