was gonna say I’m wrong for putting victim in quotes but I re-read his statement and i’m sticking with it. was a consensual encounter (if we accept his account) and women have agency over their actions. the term “victim” is too loaded for this scenatio
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What happened
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@Lucid I respect your opinion but disagree with it to an extent, re: women having agency over their actions, that's certainly not always the case and I've heard way too much "Oh why didn't she just stop", it's not that simple
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Album Rating: 4.5
yeah the situation is far too personal and intricate for us to have assumptions on who is right and wrong.
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Album Rating: 4.5
im not gonna pass judgment on anyone all i know is we should be listenign to a new pinegrove album by now goddammit
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What happened
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Album Rating: 4.5
bruh if you cared so much just search it
https://www.stereogum.com/1972514/pinegrove-frontman-apologizes-for-behavior-with-women-cancels-tour/news/
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Google
is
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Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off
this is why we should just all be asexual
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Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off
humanity might even die off before global warming made the earth too fucked if it's lucky
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Album Rating: 4.5
nah man Matthew Mcconaughey will find us a new planet by then
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Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off
we're saved
https://www.stereogum.com/1987184/half-waif-says-pinegroves-new-album-skylight-is-still-coming-out-band-is-already-working-on-the-next-one/news/
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Album Rating: 5.0
i am totally late for this one and i can't believe i missed it somehow?? have not listened to anything else for the last six weeks. first instant 5 i've had in a long long long time. hope their hiatus doesn't last much longer and the drama doesn't derail everything they've done so far
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Album Rating: 4.5
do you wanna daaaaaance?
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Album Rating: 4.5
Either nothing happened or he misunderstood the whole thing, because his 'apology' does not apologize for sexual misconduct, at most it apologyzes for flirting, which to me is basically a sport
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This is spicy as hell: https://www.reddit.com/r/PinegroveBand/comments/8claeb/re_pinegrove_accusations_punk_talks/
"Sheridan Allen, the founder of Punk Talks, worked directly with one of Evan's ex-gfs in the sexual coercion accusation. The victim was adamant that Pinegrove still be able to play shows, and her and Evan are still on civil terms today. Sheridan didn't want this, and used the words 'take down the biggest band in indie' as her description of her objective regarding the whole situation. Evan was pressured to make his statement, against the victims apparent desires."
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Album Rating: 4.0
I knew there was something weird going on here, that’s not what I expected at all though
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Album Rating: 4.5
that post is a hard oof
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Album Rating: 4.0
That is
That is something
Honestly not sure what to say about that, this adds an odd layer to things
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Album Rating: 4.0
whole thing seemed weird from the get-go
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