"How fucked can you be as a person to deny someone who's lost nearly everything while you sit in your fancy little mansion? "

~capitalism~

insert bernie sanders shilling here

That's not reasoning, I'm just stating the fact. U.S. citizens are held back by half of the population who are dumb as hell and take up a majority of the House and Senate vote. We can hardly do anything as citizens, our entire society is built on the idea that money is your livelihood and pays for the hospital bills so we're too scared to get hurt, we have protests every single day across the country for all types of shit, we're fucking sick and tired.

You don't live here, you have no idea what it's like. You're not the one getting fucked in the ass by the shit you read in the articles and see in pictures, you just get to stand by and watch as we crumble as a society. You're right in saying we should be protesting but there's so much shit wrong with the system we live in, we can't all approach it at one angle.

Don't say there's something wrong with US, it's something wrong with the U.S.--cheesy, I know but it's fucking true. We're powerless, dude.

"my comment was at fripp. i chose to disregard your comment because it was mostly just terrible rationalizations for inaction breeding more inaction."

Spend a week in Alabama and you'll be amazed that I get by even bringing these kinds of issues up in everyday conversation.

"your major religion itself is built around celebrating a nativity scene about refugees seeking shelter"

americans don't practice hard christianity so much as they generally do a sort of christianity-lite that only has to be applied to situations on an individual basis based on circumstance and convenience

You don't live here, you have no idea what it's like. You're not the one getting fucked in the ass by the shit you read in the articles and see in pictures, you just get to stand by and watch as we crumble as a society. You're right in saying we should be protesting but there's so much shit wrong with the system we live in, we can't all approach it at one angle.

We're powerless, dude.

americans don't practice hard christianity so much as they generally do a sort of christianity-lite that only has to be applied to situations on an individual basis based on circumstance and convenience

"so unbelievably stupid. half of your population is completely oblivious to whats going on. im informed enough to sympathize, especially coming from a country that nearly lost our health care "and until just recently was headed in the very direction u guys are. not to mention half of my family is american so its not like im up here standing by and watching, everything that effects you, effects my family, which effects me. we are joined at the border, even if i didnt have so much close family in the states everything that goes on there would still effect me as a Canadian citizen. as much as it effects wealthy and middle class white americans to have institutionalized racism at least lmao. as america crumbles as a society it takes others down with it. plus half your protests are on non-issues that are propagated through religious and ideological feuds dividing your people. but you're not standing up and fighting your government together, you're watching small groups of people attempt to do it and saying "well shucks thats a major bummer" as they get stomped the fuck out by the state. other countries have revolutions over the shit your country is dealing with yet one of the most privledged countries in the world makes excuses like 'its complicated' and 'u dont undrstand'. just excuses."

Alright so before I was sure your answer would be "Well, I'm Candian so..." But since you now have pointed out that these issues do affect you and people you know, what have YOU done?

@death harper tried to phase out our healthcare and eliminate corporate taxation and spend all our money on the military and keep refugees out of our country and breed xenophobic fear and paranoia and exploit that for his own political agenda and basically fucked our country in every way possible after my entire generation didnt vote but we learned from our mistakes. what did i do? i learned from my mistake. i was one of those who didnt vote, i propagated harper assfucking our country. this time, i strategically voted, i designed and hand printed anti-harper shirts and sold and gave them away in my city around the elections, ive signed petitions, ive kept myself informed and educated, ive always shared all relevant articles i can about what is going on politically in my country AND yours to the many many people who dont care at all because the least you can do is help other people know whats going on, ive gone to protests for pipelines etc. and i can sure as fuck tell u one thing, if my country was turning into a police state id be protesting the fuck out of that.

I can't argue with the fact that a protest, even small scale, or something akin to an uprising is doable by Americans such as myself. I can go outside right now and walk to the nearest Wal-Mart waving a banner that says everything I'm against, holding a megaphone, and shouting truth to the masses. Yes, that is at my fingertips. But honestly, I'm just not that aggressive a person right now. It hurts me to admit it, and it's not an excuse for me to sit on my ass and smoke weed all day.

I'm tired of being that person, believe me, and soon I'm going to be that dude screaming in front of Wal-Mart. I can't guarantee that anyone is going to stand there with me, which sucks, but I'll try.

I'm already doing what I can by donating, signing petitions, and spreading truth through social media, and someday I hope to make a documentary about the shit that's going down here. It's not impressive by any means, but I'm comfortable with my online fury at the moment. It'll be more fierce soon, I assure you.

I basically sign every petition relating to refugees, criminalizing killer cops, taking away the guns in this country, stuff to help Planned Parenthood (also donating to them), and anything that sounds like a step forward for my country. And I'm donating to Bernie cuz he's the only figurehead who's gonna give a shit.

If fellow Americans in this thread aren't doing this very easy thing, sign any petition at MoveOn.org and they'll email you with a petition every day that can help this country. It's really easy and takes like two seconds a day to do.

I plan on voting for politicians that make it clear that they are against this abhorrent behavior as well. I stay well read on plenty of issues too. And like I said, I talk to people about these things. If there ever any protests, I'll do what I can to be there. But going by myself ain't exactly doing shit. Maybe it's noble, but it's also pretty pointless. I'm not going to be a defeatist about it, but I'll try to stay realistic. I think politicians like Bernie Sanders are lighting a fire under people's asses, and he definitely has my vote. It doesn't begin and end with him, but it'd be amazing to see more grass roots candidates in the future. My point is that you shouldn't think I'm completely passive. Well hell, I actually don't give a shit what you label me. That's not the point. It sounds as if based on what you're saying you've done, there are Americans that have done just as much.. But when I said I hadn't really done shit before it's because I don't think it's near enough. I do think people have to push for more, but in some ways it's starting to happen. And if you want change that isnt driven solely by violence and chaos, sometimes you have to wait for it.

/prove your worth to Pots thread

And yeah, my name is all over those petitions, but sometimes I wonder if it's really doing shit

Well, I wanted to point out that I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but trying to explain to Potsy that people might be trying to do more than he may realize.

If you're not sure, sign other petitions on other sites. The internet is a tool. Like who the fuck is putting this person info on a paper with a pen from some bearded dude on campus? Nobody. Online petitions are real shit.

I'm not saying don't sign that bearded guy's petition tho because you really should.

Oh yeah, I was doing that too. Fuck generalizing a person based on their nationality.

I was trying to explain how typical Americans are and not trying to make it seem like I'm the dipshit who doesn't do anything. So don't put me in the place of my words. Also, I'm high as fuck and angry so everything is coming out in a frustrated mess when I start typing.

good on ya salesman at least you are aware and doing something thats the least anyone could ask. the large majority of americans are doing nothing so id like to stress im not singling either of u guys out im just voicing my grievances with the general attitude of americans and their sweeping rationalizations for inaction. i also dont blame them for that tho, the government has had an incredible campaign of systematically instilling fear into its people and dividing them and making them feel helpless.

that goes for you too deathscool.