Having a laugh, I take it?

Album Rating: 3.5

Speaking of xtal and strings (couldn't find an orchestra) this actually sounds pretty damn good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqP6ncmKYeQ

Album Rating: 5.0

thats actually a really awesome cover. guy gots skill.

"explain all that with examples"
well my English isn't good enough but I'll list a very-very few of the reasons why I think this piece is much better
at 5:34 http://youtu.be/l45DAuXYSIs you can hear the same theme that appears at 0:59 but this time the modulation turns out differently and flows into an unexpected key

the ending theme (or whatever) is interrupted by a rising lead at 6:12 with an unexpected but perfectly fitting chord progression in the low-mid end which makes the piece even more gloomy

before the piece ends Mozart's brings back the opening theme 6:17 but in a totally different way

there isn't a melody or chord progression at all which turns into a loop (like in "modern" music) everything that repeats turns out differently which gives the piece a much better flow, I'd say Mozart's music is moving, it keeps refreshing itself in every 5 seconds

on the other hand Aphex refreshes "Xtal" by changing the generic, monotonous chord progression to another one, in every minute, or bringing in a drum loop which gets boring after 10 seconds (unless you want music to dance and not because of the music itself)

I could continue the list because this symphony is full of awesome moments but it's unnecessary because deep inside even most Aphex fans know Mozart was a superior musician, most people who say otherwise just want to piss me off, because they hate me for some unknown reason :'(

even if you're truly convinced Xtal is a better song or requires almost as much musical talent as no. 40, at least explain why (lol you won't am I right?)

"check out his lists
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=1048941"

I've got to admit this list is based on sarcasm and my intention was simple.. making fun of snob kids

I find Neutral Milk Hotel and Deftones terrible but somehow they're very appreciated in the underground community. On the other hand there are bands on the list I like (Converge and Botch)

Album Rating: 5.0

im pretty sure mozart would slap the shit outta you if he could read this thread

Dude, we get it. you don't see the big deal with stuff from this album. That's cool, just stop enforcing it on us.

Now go an listen to Windowlicker and cleanse your soul

Album Rating: 4.5

Sure Mozart is technically impressive and you can study it endlessly for recurring motifs, clever modulations etc. but in the end that is only appealing to the secular and analytic side of your brain.



Whether you find the music aesthetically pleasing and whether you connect to it emotionally is a different matter entirely. Personally, I can 'appreciate' Mozart, but I enjoy Aphex Twin far more. Sure Aphex isn't as technically impressive, but that isn't why I listen to music. I listen to music because I want to feel something, and be transported somewhere.



Emotionally, Mozart doesn't do anything for me. If anything, it's ultra-precision and constant shifting make it kinda vacuum-sealed for me, there's no pathos or room for emotional investment at all. It's a technically impressive feat, but as I said I don't listen to music to be wowed on a technical level.



Give me Xtal over Mozart's 40th any day.

wow, i'm the complete opposite. xtal sounds cold and emotionless to me, but Mozart's art is vibrant with emotion on the other hand.

Album Rating: 4.5

I actually find it much more impressive to nail a particular aesthetic (see Boards Of Canada, My Bloody Valentine) or strike a chord emotionally and reveal something about the human condition (see Radiohead, Swans) than to study musicology for years and then be able to show off your purely mathematical understanding of music in a composition.

Never got into BoC. It's just not my preferred taste for electronica as it's too repetitive IMO. The slight changes just don't do anything for me and it doesn't help that the dynamics are lacking, which is something i believe is important in emotional music

Album Rating: 4.5

BoC's has always seemed very dynamic to me. Songs like Everything You do is a Balloon and Happy Cycling,

among others, have lush leads often juxtaposed with uneasy, almost paranoid harmonies. They'll also use

cold, mechanical drums to compete with their hazy melodies in to further craft their signature ambiguous

sound. If you don't find much of their music emotional, at least check Kid for Today, which may be their

best track.

Album Rating: 3.5

Fantastic album. Let's not compare this to Mozart anymore.

I bet it's nothing compared to AFX's best track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xMuPWAZW8

Album Rating: 5.0

by this logic you can't say you find Converge and Queen better than 1D

eheha wow deviant nice one bra

"but in the end that is only appealing to the secular and analytic side of your brain.

Whether you find the music aesthetically pleasing and whether you connect to it emotionally is a different matter entirely."

I strongly disagree with this statement

http://youtu.be/sd4VsbM4fOo
just listen to this piece and you'll hear that the modulation from 1:44 to 1:54 adds a lot of power and emotion

there are many other examples, for example Debussy's totally out of world atmosphere wouldn't exist (or at least wouldn't be as astonishing as it is) without his unique chord progressions http://youtu.be/FOCucJw7iT8

Mozart is no exception tbh
if you listen to his music carefully you'll hear that his unexcepted key changes aren't just power demonstrations they always add something to the music

Album Rating: 2.5

Look, I think those are fine pieces you selected, but this is an EDM album performed by 1 guy, not an

orchestra with all the brass/string instruments with multiple movements and such, so of course this

is going to be simplistic by comparison, therefore there is no point in comparing them

Album Rating: 5.0

This is not EDM. Heresy

dev comes to the rescue

Album Rating: 2.5

"This is not EDM. Heresy"



That was not my point but whatever, IDM/ambient it is