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DoofusWainwright
September 12th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'Trouble' is better, and this album does have a slight dip tracks 6-8, but it's still a classic.



Tracks 1, 4, 5, 10 and maybe 11 sound like they could have appeared on Trouble pretty much



Also, 'Walk it Back' is growing on me to the extent I see it as sounding a bit like an improved version of 'This is the Last Time'

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


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As others have said, The National make grower classics, not instant classics. If I do eventually 5 this I don't think it will be for a good while.

Tunaboy45
September 12th 2017


18967 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I know people who weren't keen on TWFM and year after year it slowly grew on them, now they consider it the best National album.



It's a cliche to say but The National are a band that specialise in slow burners.

Faraudo
September 12th 2017


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Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I adore TWFM, but I think that there's more layers to this one, more secrets and small nuances. Dunno, time will tell.

DoofusWainwright
September 12th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Boney - exactly.



Plus, despite 'Trouble' being in my top 5 Albums of all time, it does have dips in the tracklist.



'Sea of Love' - 'Heaven faced' is a slight dip, and 'I need My Girl' isn't a favourite of mine.



So again, similar to this, three songs I'm less attached to. Classic albums are always 'imperfectly perfect' for me, no such thing as absolute objective perfection. A few cracks in the road are a good thing.

Tunaboy45
September 12th 2017


18967 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I have to agree, this is much less immediate.

Faraudo
September 12th 2017


5398 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

TWFM is way more direct, it's an almost immediate gut punch for me. This one's like a car crash in slow motion or something like that. It's cryptic, ambiguous, darker, way more complex. Hope i'm making any sense lol

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

I think what this album is missing is a stripped down song. Trouble had Slipped, High Violet had Runaway, Boxer had Start a War and Racing Like a Pro, Alligator had Daughters of the Soho Riots...where's the equivalent here? It it has something as quietly devastating as any of those that would help elevate it for me.

Faraudo
September 12th 2017


5398 Comments

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Maybe the opener @Boney

Tunaboy45
September 12th 2017


18967 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The closest would probably be Carin or No One Else

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Nobody Else Will Be There is too early in the tracklist to have the same impact as any of those other ones.

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


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Even Carin is more of a "rock" song in the way it builds. It could be performed with just piano though and then it might fit that bill.

Faraudo
September 12th 2017


5398 Comments

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I think it has a different kind of impact, it's like their eeriest opener ever, and it prepares you for what's comin. That's just how I feel, of course.

DoofusWainwright
September 12th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'Beg' and 'Carin' are the equivalents I'd say

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Beg has quite a bit going on in the background though, not truly "stripped down"

Faraudo
September 12th 2017


5398 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Yeah, I would go with Nobody and Carin.

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


24890 Comments

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Nobody also has too much background noise to be stripped down.

DoofusWainwright
September 12th 2017


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The song itself is bare bones and has that 'Slipped' feel



I remember the days everyone thought 'Slipped' sucked, bad times tbh

Sowing
Moderator
September 12th 2017


45556 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Just about every song has sunk in for me now. Such an amazing and consistent album.

theBoneyKing
September 12th 2017


24890 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Right now I think the lyrics are the barrier between me loving this as much as their other albums. They're great of course, but a bit too plain.



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