Candlemass Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
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Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"people still convert to christianity to escape nihilism and to reconcile the tragedy of existence. it's a coping mechanism"



It just seems so nonsensical. I can understand the need to be part of a community - and many christian sects are inclusive - but I'll never understand how anyone can claim it to be the Truth.



If anything, christianity accepts and enforces nihilism because it makes you say goodbye to all standards, even the christian ones. It becomes a metaphysical juggling act where the juggler constantly drops the balls.

artiswar
October 28th 2018


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Eg you're really splitting hairs there to make that nihilism argument, I think that's a stretch. I used look down my nose at every Christian and automatically dismissed them as willfully stupid but now that I know intelligent Christians actually exist, I can see why people turn to it. Life is fucked up and people need a foundation to exist on. For most people that foundation is built on quicksand, but since God can't be disproven, Christians can actually lead pretty balanced, fulfilling lives by deluding themselves into their beliefs.

As for finding the truth inside, what truth have you found Thrust? You're a very well read guy in philosophy, you're not religious, yet weren't you borderline suicidal only recently? People are fundamentally broken, and if you look too closely inward for meaning I think most will find despair. Look at how many successful artists kill themselves. Not saying they should have been Christian, just that it would have helped and that the belief system has merit as far as application in the real world.

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I get why people seek meaning, but I don't get how allegedly intelligent people choose a faith which is so compromised. The people are not always stupid of course, but the metaphysics certainly are.



If the strongest case people can make is 'can't be disproven', they are not very picky. Evangelicals for Trump - in what bizarro universe does that make sense?

Pon
Emeritus
October 28th 2018


6187 Comments


The feck happened here?

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

How will Jesus recognize you as a friend come Judgement Day, Jac?

necropig
October 28th 2018


7774 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is getting a little bit too Sunday up in this bitch

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Love comes in many shapes. Even belt-wielding fathers (aka God) just want whats's best for you.

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Emeritus
October 28th 2018


26909 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Some weird arguments here



People turn to religion for many reasons, but one of the most common ones is that in a psychological sense the idea of having ultimate control over your own morals and destiny is for many a frightening prospect. Now no one really has control over these factors, society dictates what morals and ethics you should have, for better and worse (and these are mainly put forth in society by those who already hold power), and destiny is shaped by so many things - ability, background etc. and enforced by those whose destiny is to succeed. What those who hold power do though is create the idea that you can determine your own destiny, that free will actually exists, aand for some people that idea is hard to adjust to. Therefore turning to a deity who supposedly has a divine plan for you is comforting and takes some of the responsibility off your back.

artiswar
October 28th 2018


16639 Comments


@Eg But that it can't be disproven isn't the primary factor in conversion.

artiswar
October 28th 2018


16639 Comments


Agreed Thrust. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.

Pon
Emeritus
October 28th 2018


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"How will Jesus recognize you as a friend come Judgement Day, Jac?"

The Pope said pons are frens and all frens go to Heaven

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It can be proven that God is cool with pedophile priests and genocide. How is that so easy to disregard?

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Emeritus
October 28th 2018


26909 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

what are you talking about

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Pedophile priests, sin. Spokespersons for God. If they exist, the conclusion seems clear.

Pon
Emeritus
October 28th 2018


6187 Comments


What doth life? Are we just fleshy blips in some meaningless stew of cosmic oblivion? Or is it vice-reversa? Is our every trollop through fate's garden infused with a mystic...

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Emeritus
October 28th 2018


26909 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

how can you ascern the will of a divine power by the ills of man, thats such a dumb argument



i could declare myself a christian right now and go on a mass killing spree to 'rid the world of sinners' - what exactly would that prove

Egarran
October 28th 2018


36862 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It would prove that there is no God or Jesus to stop you.

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Emeritus
October 28th 2018


26909 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

do you understand what the idea of a deity is? because a deity doesn't just come down and stop people from doing bad things, incredibly fallacious argument



have you considered making an atheism youtube channel by any chance

artiswar
October 28th 2018


16639 Comments


I'm gonna pray for you Eg.

SymbolicInTime
October 28th 2018


7380 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

It’s TJ Kirk



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