Album Rating: 5.0

SAW 2 is good but it lacks consistency. It has beautiful moments like all of APX's music but it is nowhere near as groundbreaking as SAW. I see the former being more of a collage of creative work while the latter being a holistic piece, unifying and supplementing each song with one another. One can almost /feel/ the energy behind the movement from say Schottkey 7th Path into Ptolemy.

And I dont think age should determine the legacy of an album at all, and as you said it is quite impressive, it is simply an ode to the mans genius.



That being said the repetitiveness is essential. It is a defining point. And I agree this album is very primitive/rudementary , and I love it just for that. For its bleakness, as well as its joyous bounce. It's an hour long thought pattern really. A beautiful one made by Aphex.

Album Rating: 3.5

I disagree. It may have a certain sentimental charm to it being that you’re listening to a blossoming talent, and while I too can appreciate a more simplistic, elegant approach to music, it sounds inferior to his later work. In his later albums he basically abandoned the parameters that, as influential as this album may be, were still very much in place at the time. Or at least as far as Aphex Twin was concerned (AFX and other monikers are a different story entirely). The melodies, the rhythms, the breadth of both sound and emotion that was introduced from ICBYD and through SAWII, RDJ and beyond almost seems preposterous now in retrospect. I’m not saying this album is shit, it’s good. But if this album championed the Ptolemaic model then the SAW II, RDJ - era Aphex Twin is Isaac Newton’s Principia - level shit. It’s better in virtually every respect.

Album Rating: 5.0

I guess we just have different opinions. Good chat though.

Album Rating: 5.0

Nah what I mean is if youve accepted the album to be mediocre then just dont bother trying to listen to it, cuz its obviously music youre not into.



gosh

@negator dude, I hate repetitive stuff, but I still love a lot of electronic music

Album Rating: 4.5

Repetition can be amazing if it's calculated/executed well.

This, and Steve Reich's Music For 18 Musicians are the perfect examples for me.

Album Rating: 5.0

Obviously not Dev. I guess its an error of word usage on my part. What I mean is if you find this album to be mediocre as to rate it as such, then you might as well not bother with the rest of his discog. Of course you can, dislike one album from an artist and then love the rest of his albums. Thats just opinions. But if someone were to walk up to me up and was like, yea dude Afx is the shit bro... Come to Daddy is my jam . . but Saw 85 92 is fucking terrible. Id literally just start laughing and call him an idiot. Because SAW is arguably his most accessible album.



But no I didnt mean to target the genre.





Thats interesting Choccy .... I see you like metal. How do you manage Darkspace?

lol, if you see me on the Darkspace threads, you see me talk about how it drags all the time:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=14828&page=2#comments

In fact, I think it's their biggest flaw, which is why I don't handle the long winded ambient tracks or 20+ minute tracks too well.

Besides, this is a different kind of repetition. One that doesn't build on itself, doesn't increase intensity (for the most part) and generally remains pretty stale

Album Rating: 5.0

Darkspace's biggest flaw is its repetition.



A band labeled under ambient, a band which is dedicated to Darkness and Space.



I guess youve never been to fucking space then.





But it doesnt need to increase intensity. Things in music dont need to drastically change for them to be better. The smallest tempo change can be exactly what it needed. Or a change from riff to riff. Not everything has to be a dubstep remix of Hot Nigga with a Michael Bay sample in it.

Well... no, i haven't been to space.

And so what if i tend to like things to change up a bit more? That's the exact same reason i don't like GY!BE Lift Your Skinny Fists that much, because nothing bloody well happens and that's fine, cos it's my opinion.

Album Rating: 3.5

Damn. I mean. That is one of the dumbest comments I've read on this site.



(Not Choccy)

Album Rating: 5.0

lol I swear sometimes I feel like you guys take things to heart or its youre first time on the interwebs. Thats great buddy, congrats on your opinion. But dont expect an ambient song not to run along for 20 minutes... they tend to do that.



You should read my other comments death...

I prefer Darkspace when they combine BM and ambience, not just them doing ambient stuff.

"But dont expect an ambient song not to run along for 20 minutes... they tend to do that."

*clap clap clap*

Album Rating: 5.0

Because SAW is arguably his most accessible album.

Album Rating: 3.5

On a related unrelated note, I jammed this for the first time today.

Album Rating: 5.0

"but one man's prize is another man's poison "





Very true. Gotta agree with that. People always gonna like what they like. Some people like cinnamon stix, others prefer salty. I personally prefer neither of those. But yea.

deathschool schooled in death since '83

Album Rating: 4.5

wish this sounded a bit cleaner. and less reverb at times. but rules.

Album Rating: 3.5

This is perfect reading music.

Album Rating: 5.0

It's perfect the way it is.