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GhandhiLion
November 14th 2023


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That's not what you said before. You said "fawning" over technicality is cope simpliciter.

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


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that's a bad parse you've got there, and it is exactly what i was suggesting before

GhandhiLion
November 14th 2023


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You never said anything about predicting that people will cope if "songcraft" becomes the more predominant topic in music discourse.

ArsMoriendi
November 14th 2023


42362 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Average Tool discourse be like^

porcupinetheater
November 14th 2023


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

This all began with somebody lyric posting that "shit the bed again" lyric lol

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


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"You never said anything"
it was to be inferred as the cope cause and was explicated after
this is cope

porcupinetheater
November 14th 2023


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Wish I could contribute to the discourse but I know dick-all about music theory tbh



Is technical music a pedal board big enough to break a roadie's back and a drummer who can play in 17/8 while simultaneously homophobically thrusting his finger at an audience member in 4/4?

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


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i believe that astute observation comes under "Individual acts of iconoclasm are usually associated with a mental disturbance"

but that now makes two of us iconoclasming together

Egarran
November 14th 2023


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

>This all began with somebody lyric posting that "shit the bed again" lyric lol



This is what makes Tool discussions so fruitful. There's something for everyone in their music.

porcupinetheater
November 14th 2023


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Danny Carey is absolutely covered head to toe in iconoclasm



Gettin' in all the hard to reach places

GhandhiLion
November 14th 2023


17793 Comments


"it was to be inferred as the cope cause and was explicated after"
That's what I'm contesting. Your follow up answer was:

"If .... then the result would be a neverending cope"

If you didn't think that "fawning over technical proficiency is cope-in-denial 101" then just say that you retract the claim and your follow up responses are more in line with what you are trying to communicate.

Egarran
November 14th 2023


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

If you want ammo against Carey, read Unleashed: The Story of Tool. Dude is so ARROGANT. Wish good musicians could just be nice.

porcupinetheater
November 14th 2023


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Just checked the url and this is sputnikmusic review #6669

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


64287 Comments


""If .... then the result would be a neverending cope"

that is a hypothetical scenario

the factor preventing it from materialising is the denial side of the cope-in-denial equation

techwank shitchat denies meaningful discourse about songcraft in which wankers cope

[ad break]

"Wish good musicians could just be nice."

what about Luc Lemay, Marnie Stern, and the other one

porcupinetheater
November 14th 2023


11092 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Robbie Basho?

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


64287 Comments


our lord and saviour, he will rise again!

Egarran
November 14th 2023


36867 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Maybe we are all somewhere on the cope-in-denial spectrum.

Ryus
November 14th 2023


37885 Comments


technical proficiency is inversely correlated with quality



artiswar
November 14th 2023


16639 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

I'm totally sane and not over the hill yet Eg

JohnnyoftheWell
November 14th 2023


64287 Comments


ever since our other lord and saviour sid vicious ended musicianship



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