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Deviant.
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December 30th 2012


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Yeah, but only amongst a minority of people who don't know any better ;)

https://twitter.com/FourTet/status/217720244481949696

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


15387 Comments

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I only know "IDM" and I'm not sure whether that's even a thing.

Deviant.
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December 30th 2012


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Silly America for essentially creating the platforms for nearly every conventional genre of electronic music out there 30 odd years ago, then abandoning it until just recently when every pop star jumped on the guetta bandwagon. What kind of electronic music do you listen to? Oh you know, edm....

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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lol Guetta. I'm not even going to comment on the songs that made him popular in the U.S.

Brostep
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December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Postulate: EDM does not exist. Proof: Four Tet said something on twitter. Conclusion: must be true. ALL HAIL THE LORD



In all seriousness, though, there's no way to argue that only a minority of electronic fans listen to EDM. I mean, as much as I hate to say this and you'll immediately look down on it without considering that it's a valid point, Skrillex has almost 10 million fans on Facebook. While that doesn't make him good, 10 million ain't a small number. You can't discount those ten million plus probably another 20 million or so who like other kinds of EDM as "insignificant."

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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So you can say with scientific accuracy that all of his fans consider his music to be "EDM" and not just.. FUCKING DUBSTEP? Because y'know, since apparently a lot of people associate him with that.



And that's ignoring that how many people believe something to bet true is completely irrelevant. This earth's population has proven for centuries that majorities often believe huge loads of bullshit. (oh, hi geocentric ideology)

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


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Postulate: EDM does not exist. Proof: Four Tet said something on twitter. Conclusion: must be true. ALL HAIL THE LORD


Posting a link isn't some kind of attempt to prove a point, it's..... simply posting a funny link

Also I don't see how telling me how many fans Skrillex has is in anyway a validation of a term. I'm not denying a musician's sound, I'm making mockery of a terrible term put out by people who don't know any better. I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convince me of here - I know Skrillex is popular, I've made mention of this several times before

Brostep
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December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

And I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convince me of either. As far as I'm concerned, EDM is an appropriate label to throw over guys like Skrillex, as about half of his music isn't actually dubstep, no matter how many people listen to "Kill Everybody" and shout "OMG DUBNSTEPZZZZZ." The only real argument you've made that EDM doesn't actually exist is that because stupid people call it EDM, it must not exist.

Brostep
Emeritus
December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

What kind of electronic music do you listen to? Oh you know, edm....




If this comes to me, it'd be something like "Mostly stuff that falls under the EDM label. I listen to some dubstep, some poppy DnB, some neurofunk (which often doesn't quite fall under it but whatevs), some house, some glitch hop, etc." I try not to be one of those people who listens to, say, Split The Atom and then says "That's some good dubstep brah." But I use the term "EDM" like it is - electronic dance music, anything that would cause some mayhem at the typical American club. That's all it is.

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


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"as about half of his music isn't actually dubstep"

So the other half is, that's enough and who gives a fuck about pinpoint accurate genre terminology?

That's as stupid as the whole added prefix thing. "derp post-dub!"



Also, you do realize the irony of trying to be more accurate and then lumping stuff together under an incredible general term that could mean ANYTHING?

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


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No I think of it in the same way that I dislike the term "electronica", or "post dubstep". It's a term being used to sell a trend, nothing more. It's not indicative of the music, and people aren't throwing it around when an artist uses more than one genre in his sound (really? is your argument based around that Skrillex doesn't just do dubstep? Dude, we know). It's just more bandwagonning of a sound that's been dumbed down and mass produced. In the words of Deadmau5, it's "minimal effort for maximum return". Like, has no one who actively uses a term like "edm" ever heard of house music, or techno, or dubstep? It's like calling things "world music"

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


32288 Comments


If this comes to me,


No it was aimed at no one, it was a general blanket statement thing

Brostep
Emeritus
December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's not indicative of the music


And that's where we have different opinions. If someone describes something as "EDM," I basically know exactly how it'll

sound - big drums, wubs all over the place, etc. It's indicative of the music for me because it separates the big, dance-

oriented shit from the "true" electronic music that people like you (and usually me) enjoy. It's absolutely indicative of the

music.

Brostep
Emeritus
December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

god dammit formatting

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


32288 Comments


And that's where we have different opinions. If someone describes something as "EDM," I basically know exactly how it'll sound - big drums, wubs all over the place, etc. It's indicative of the music for me because it separates the big, dance- oriented shit from the "true" electronic music that people like you (and usually me) enjoy. It's absolutely indicative of the
music.


Lol, what do you mean by "true"? This isn't about the music being good or bad, or "true" or whatever. Is "true" electronic music not big and dance oriented or something?

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

"And that's where we have different opinions. If someone describes something as "EDM," I basically know exactly how it'll

sound - big drums, wubs all over the place, etc. It's indicative of the music for me because it separates the big, dance-

oriented shit from the "true" electronic music that people like you (and usually me) enjoy. It's absolutely indicative of the

music."

So a term that could basically mean anything is indicative of the music? A term that basically means "electronic music which is danceable" ?

Brostep
Emeritus
December 30th 2012


4491 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I'm talking about the "true" music as in the music the white knights of electronic who have been listening to dubstep since El-B and drum & bass ever since it was "jungle" will rush to defend as the only kind of electronic worth your time. Basically I use it sarcastically, that's why it's in quotes.

Wolfhorde
December 30th 2012


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

That doesn't change that electronic music which is danceable can mean anything. People can dance to DnB, people can dance to dubstep that isn't poppy brostep or anything of the like. There's a lot of stuff that could be considered danceable that you call "true".

anarchistfish
December 30th 2012


30534 Comments


I wasn't aware people used "EDM" as anything more than an umbrella term. They might as well be saying "club music"

Deviant.
Staff Reviewer
December 30th 2012


32288 Comments


I only fucks with the trvestep. Post '06step is a travesty



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