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"KC influenced everyone who attempts to play progressive music. They're the Black Sabbath of prog rock imo"



KC is a weird way to spell Moody Blues

Moody Blues are about as important to progressive rocks development as The Beatles or Nice. Their influence is usually indirect.

Album Rating: 4.5

Days of Future Passed IS a prog album though, one that's older than KC's debut by 2 years

Sure, but they have more in common with symphonic pop than many of the bands that followed them. I group them with Procol Harum and The Beatles.

It is a prog album, but King Crimson or even Family are easier to hear in later prog bands.

edit: no it isn't a prog album!

Album Rating: 4.5

Fun fact: King Crimson claims direct influence from Moody Blues for Court

Album Rating: 4.5

(Ian) "McDonald suggested the band purchase a Mellotron, and they began using it to create an orchestral rock sound, inspired by the Moody Blues."

Yes! They also claim direct influence from The Beatles and Bartok.

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah but Bartok isn't prog and neither are The Beatles



One prog band influencing another prog band is different than a non-prog band influencing a prog band

True, but I think that they are barely prog (Not the definitive band of the style, but they are always worth mentioning) and some of the Beatles songs are borderline prog. (And just as important!)

Certainly influential to prog rocks first bands, but I suspect that more bands since Prog Rocks inception cite PF, Genesis and KC as influences.

Album Rating: 4.5

Sure they probably cite them, if that's your argument, then fine you're probably right



My argument was more that The Moody Blues kinda started the prog scene since they're the ones with the first fully definitive prog album (I think? Maybe there's an earlier one, but I wouldn't pick a later one)



Even if the Beatles had some prog-like songs (A Day in the Life? Honestly that's all I can think of) it was never the entire album like with Days of Future Passed

Yeah, the subject was about everlasting influence (The original compassion to Sabbath)

"My argument was more that The Moody Blues kinda started the prog scene"
I, like most people, would assign that to ITCOTCK. Though the Canterbury scene was a thing before it.

I don't think the whole album is prog rock. Only The Afternoon: Forever Afternoon is prog like, the rest is Art Rock, classical or baroque pop.

Album Rating: 5.0

Evolutions in music are always hard to pin. I love Days, but it's not entirely prog in the same way that Court is. Days is the most prog album up to that point but it is still strongly pysch pop and baroque pop. There's nothing prog about Another Morning or Peak Hour, but at least the second half of Days is absolutely brilliant and very prog with all the connected movements.



Days certainly did majorly influence King Crimson and also Jethro Tull. Ian Anderson loved the flute in Nights in White Satin and was part of the reason he thought flute would work in a band context. Procol Harum and Family were also directly and quite evidently an influence on Genesis. Not sure about Nice having much of an influence besides Keith acquiring the guts to do what he did in ELP.

Album Rating: 4.5

My point is that King Crimson came too late to the scene to be its founder



And I disagree that The Afternoon is the only prog track



I mean Evening is prog as fuck and Dawn and The Day Begins and The Night... and Lunch Break



The entire concept of the album is proggy too, and the orchestral sections intermixed only make that even more obvious, having orchestra sections that actually sound like they belong to a symphony is a bit too close to the classical structure to be baroque pop, which is usually just classical instruments used in pop, right?



That fact that most songs are multisectioned too

I really don't like using the word scene. Prog wasn't a term used a lot at the time. There is rarely any cohesive movements for sub-genres.

Genre Labels are applied after the music and there is still revisionism to this day ( Dark Side of the Moon is not prog people!)

Those songs sound like Baroque Pop or Progressive pop to me. Not prog.

"That fact that most songs are multisectioned too"
That's one of the most prog like things about the album. There is elements in the music, just like other artists that are often named as being influential to prog.

Something else to note is progressive as a descriptor:
Tommy by the Who could be described as "progressive", but it is not prog rock.

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Isn't Tommy more like a rock opera? I wouldn't call DoFP that

Yes it is, but Concept albums are usually called progressive by someone. Progressive is any album with an overarching theme, longer songs or more than three chords.

I have seen people describe Joanna Newsom's music as progressive.

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Because it is

Album Rating: 4.5

I always wondered if I'd like Joanna Newsom



Might check Ys sometime in 2020