Nokturnal Mortum The Voice of Steel
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Orb
November 21st 2017


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"they're Ukrainian nationalists and they don't (didn't???) like the jeeeeeeewwwwws, but they're not nazis per se."

they also grew up in pre-internet eastern bloc europe. I can look beyond their past ideologies all things considered. The socio-economic conditions that they surely found themselves surrounded by during their formative years obviously lent a big hand in their worldview at the time. They've long since denounced those old ways of thought (as they should have) but still unfairly get lumped-in with bands that are still national-socialists despite having every opportunity in the modern age of technology to enlighten their abject ignorance. Its kind of tragic in a way, and a perfect example of how most people really don't bother to examine the circumstances that foster certain ways of thinking if they don't immediately coincide with their own predispositions.

Orb
November 21st 2017


9638 Comments


Yeah, like well over a decade ago. The real irony here is that people who hate them today for their past ideologies in an age where knowing better wasn't much of an option are probably more ignorant than the band members themselves are. Like if you grew up as a silver-spoon fed trustfund kid from the american midwest of course you'll have no idea how to relate to someone who grew up in a world that would utterly terrify your four-ply toilet paper wiped ass, but at least try to understand how people around the world might have different beliefs shaped by rough circumstances and lack of information beyond their immediate spheres of influence. Nazi might piss me off, but people who are so blatantly hinged on their biases that they forego critical thought also piss me off.

Scoob
November 21st 2017


4678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Have U hear Valkyrie yet mayhem smh

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Emeritus
November 21st 2017


26909 Comments


ahh right cool i'd thought i'd heard them lumped in but wasn't sure

i have no problem listening to nsbm but it does put a bit of a bad taste in my mouth regardless

will check this, is it similar to lunar poetry?

Scoob
November 21st 2017


4678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Not really it's more symphonic progressive

Great sound

Scoob
November 21st 2017


4678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

The t/t is haunted by the demon Stalin

DarkNoctus
November 21st 2017


12782 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Yeah, like well over a decade ago.




actually it was about 3-4 years ago they officially denounced it in a statement, but i agree with the rest of your points. i'm just a pedant [:

Essence
December 6th 2017


6809 Comments


can you find where they officially gave that statement?

DungeonBoy
December 6th 2017


10287 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

*beats dead horse*

Essence
December 6th 2017


6809 Comments


no i'm only interested because i was pretty certain they had renounced it a long time before darknoctus is claiming

listening to the remix for this. idk if i prefer it tbh. will have to get through Ukraine to decide

KjSwantko
December 6th 2017


12568 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Dang dude I gotta listen to this again, killer killer fun BM

DungeonBoy
December 6th 2017


10287 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I'm just messin with you bud, but taking wikipedia quotes with a grain of salt "In 2008, the band's singer and guitarist, Knjaz Varggoth, claimed that he had no interest in political tendencies and had never viewed Nokturnal Mortum as a political band."

Essence
December 6th 2017


6809 Comments


original is better

Orb
December 6th 2017


9638 Comments


Original is better at low volume. The remaster does a lot better when you belt it though.

DarkNoctus
December 6th 2017


12782 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

can you find where they officially gave that statement?




sure, here:



https://www.facebook.com/nokturnalmortumofficial/posts/10153905204320487

Essence
December 6th 2017


6809 Comments


cool, thanks. i figured they had transitioned beyond that mindset earlier because Voice of Steel is sooooooooooooo different from their earlier ethos

DarkNoctus
December 6th 2017


12782 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

i think that was them just making it super clear because there's absolutely nothing of that ilk on the voice of steel.

Scoob
December 6th 2017


4678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is one of my favorite albums ever

KjSwantko
December 6th 2017


12568 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Why no 5 then Scoob?

Scoob
December 6th 2017


4678 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'm a pussy yes agreed. Path of sun kinda drags it down in a section. But i will consider it



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