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Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


butt I'm sorry but that's an awful take. You're literally saying people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions because if they do there will be consequences. That's the entire idea. You are responsible for your own actions. The guy was 23 years old. He was a grown adult.

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

23 three years old with a heart of gold

Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


"you should be able to get away with being a child predator if you wait a really long time before anyone finds out about it" is essentially your argument here

Slex
December 4th 2020


17870 Comments


I think this is a thorny and complex issue that gets people worked up on both sides and results in people speaking in absolutes when the situation deserves more nuance than that

Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


if you wanna have a discussion about whether people should eventually be forgiven for stuff like this that's one thing, but if he won't even admit what he did and give a proper apology and own up to it then that discussion has no reason to happen

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I think this is a thorny and complex issue that gets people worked up on both sides and results in people speaking in absolutes when the situation deserves more nuance than that





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Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


"I think child predators should be held accountable for their actions"

"woahh hey man don't get crazy this is a super complex nuanced issue!"

Project
December 4th 2020


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

wait are you telling me a music forum with complete strangers isn't conducive to discourse on complex moral topics?

Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


the complex morality of sending dick pics to a kid

Project
December 4th 2020


5961 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

the complexity isn't in whether or not what Jesse did was wrong or, realistically, whether or not he should be held accountable



the complexity is in what constitutes being held accountable (a position that, for the record, you and I are pretty much in agreement Colton)

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

actually it's so complex south park made an entire episode about it-



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esw-gH5W_i0

BaselineOOO
December 4th 2020


2846 Comments


I wish people just enjoyed the music! That guy is dickuous, sure, I guess, but it's not like he's singing with his dick. I just recently learned how to enjoy Brand New and everybody here is policing now instead of welcoming me to the club.

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Colton I know this is complex but you are the cops in that clip

GhandhiLion
December 4th 2020


17793 Comments


"the complex morality of sending dick pics to a kid"

Is that a brand new song title?

Colton
December 4th 2020


16757 Comments


wtf are you even talking about reich

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

tbf I think so little of everyone itt that even designating you as "sputters" is a little generous

Slex
December 4th 2020


17870 Comments


Yeah like Project said I was referring to the concept of accountability and its consequences and not about specifically what Jesse did lol

BaselineOOO
December 4th 2020


2846 Comments


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unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

thats how I read it and trust me, I am fucking stupid

unclereich
December 4th 2020


14113 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

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