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evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

years ago, two parents went out to dinner later that night, the babysitter called and asked if she could put a blanket over the clown statue in the kids room. the dad said "get the kids out of the house and we'll call the police. we don't have a......clown statue." the statue was actually a serial killer that broke out of prison 5 years earlier. if you don't post this on ten photos, the clown will be in your bed with a chainsaw in his hand at 3 am.

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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scream is right though, "decent" shouldn't be under 50%, because 50% should mean "average" - for obvious reasons.
if they are so obvious why don't you go ahead and list them =)

altertide0
November 3rd 2015


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i did it

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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yeah there are none

Jots
Emeritus
November 3rd 2015


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if a 5/5 is a musical peak - greatest thing that has ever passed through your ears - then honestly a 2/5 really isn't so shabby

altertide0
November 3rd 2015


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average means pretty much "not good but not bad either". It seems intuitive to put your "average" marker exactly in the middle of the scale. Anything less and it lacks something, anything more and it does something better than your "average" record.

I mean every scale can be explained and learnt (like "positive" scales) but IMO this one's the most immediately informative.

evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"Besides, ratings are just arbitrary numbers"

why do people keep saying ratings are arbitrary numbers?



ar·bi·trar·y

ˈärbəˌtrerē/

adjective

adjective: arbitrary



based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.



rating albums is quite mostly often done because of personal reasons or based on the system of ratings in which you assign a number value to an album based on how much you enjoy it. saying the ratings/numbers are arbitrary indicates that there is no reason they were rated what they were which is just not true (unless someone is a dumbass and is really just rating randomly)

altertide0
November 3rd 2015


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@Sachiko On sputnik there's at least a universal rating system that in theory should be followed by all the users. It's much harder on rym, where there's no suggestion as to what a rating should mean, and so somebody's "1.5 = decent" contributes to an average less than somebody else's "2.5 = poor".

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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average means pretty much "not good but not bad either".
it does not
It seems intuitive to put your "average" marker exactly in the middle of the scale.
evaluation based on seeming intuition might be lacking something

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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that's actually just the actual definition of arbitrary tbh he is not wrong tbh

altertide0
November 3rd 2015


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@treeqt notice that i didn't say "the best", but "the most intuitive". so your point is invaild

and yeah i know what "average" really means. i'm talking about the colloquial meaning

evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

ok here's another one

": not planned or chosen for a particular reason : not based on reason or evidence



: done without concern for what is fair or right"

it's pretty nice to find a definition that's perfectly convenient for the particular point you're trying to make. guess it just depends on your definition of arbitrary, of which there are obviously multiples. but the one above is how it was used by me and other people around me all my life so that's what I'm sticking w/ I guess.



treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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you're vastly overstating the difference between words and numbers in this context tbh

average is a purely colloquial term aka the pinnacle of ambiguity

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


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no it does not wtf

evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"I don't think people rate with this in mind at all. Case in point, people rating bar sachiko a 1 after sampling 10 seconds. Is that done with a concern for what is fair and right? Hmmm...?"

that's a fair example of a rating being arbitrary.

I've seen people saying that all ratings are arbitrary, (which is also what started this) aka rated that particular rating without reason. so me loving symbolic is not the reason that I rated it a 5/5? huh interesting

Jots
Emeritus
November 3rd 2015


7633 Comments


i think you're strawmanning a bit here Sach

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


16970 Comments


you are under the impression that this is somehow relevant to the point when in fact it actually is not

you can systematically arrange data obtained randomly

evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"People will enjoy it for different reasons"



reasons



you said it



I guess you have a different definition of "arbitrary" than I do. I had never heard it used in that context until I saw someone on sput referring to ratings as "arbitrary".

treeqt.
November 3rd 2015


16970 Comments


The rating is a representation of your reaction, not the reaction itself.

evilford
November 3rd 2015


71723 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

that doesn't make the rating arbitrary, based on the definition of arbitrary I've become accustomed to



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