Album Rating: 4.0

prolly just in relation to my avatar mang

Album Rating: 4.0

@mark, i don't mind those songs either i just don't love them

Album Rating: 5.0

Hide Your Secrets is a tad slow and not a lot is going on, but lyrically it's composed pretty well. Well, so is the rest of the album...

Album Rating: 4.0

Don't get me wrong, lyrically the band is pretty solid. For me though, good lyrics aren't going to save a song that doesn't interest me musically or vocally.



Like I have said before, I am not the biggest fan of his cleans, which is why I prefer their more scream/sing combo over him doing songs with cleans being the majority of the focus.

I do enjoy his cleans, but I agree that more harsh vocal sections would be nice to hear as well.

Opening track is damn good.

Album Rating: 5.0

Makes sense, when I first listened to them at DTWF I felt the screams were the weak part vocally, but they grew on me and I admire the vocals either way. For me, lyrical content has the biggest influence on me, I can't listen to stuff a lot when the meaning is trash. I agree though, the vocals are most solid when there's enough of both, but that's kind of how the album is composed, with 50/50, some with more or all cleans and some with more or all screams. That's how I look at it.

Album Rating: 4.0

I don't think he is a bad singer, I just don't like his vocal tone very much. At least he can actually hit the notes he is singing, especially since a lot of it is up in a higher register.



I have always thought similar things about Senses Fail, except I have heard Buddy can sound pretty awful live ( he doesn't always sound the best on their recordings either though). Does Shane pretty much sound the same live as he does on the recordings?

Album Rating: 5.0

Well, that's subjective to taste audio-wise, but it's like my childhood in a voice, minus the child aspect of it. I dig it.



He's always put on a really solid performance when I've seen 'em, first time was in '07, last time was last years and I've never had any complaints. One of the better live vocalist within the genre honestly.

Album Rating: 4.0

Exactly. His tone is just kind of flat and uninteresting to me. I don't think I have ever really heard him use vibrato either. Oh well, I still like them enough to buy their music.



A lot bands in this genre have a tendency for a higher range vocalist on the recordings, which is usually something they couldn't really do live. That's why I was wondering.

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah, well even on record his tone isn't all that high, but yeah as a whole they're outstanding live.

Album Rating: 4.0

Really? I have always thought he has had a pretty high voice.

Album Rating: 5.0

I dunno, not compared to a lot of acts within the same genre. I'd say it's relatively mid-range within post hardcore.

Album Rating: 4.0

Its not as high as say, Sleeping With Sirens, but its still up there.

This wasn't half bad wtf

Album Rating: 4.0

That riff in stand amid the roar is insanely awesome

I agree that he still has higher range voice. But not like he's the singer for Man Overboard or any of the scenecore bands.

Album Rating: 4.0

What are some bands that are considered "scenecore?"

I was speaking generally of second wave Post Hardcore acts that played music geared heavily to the "scene" crowd. Chiodos, Alesana, A Skylit Drive (etc). You know the lot.

Album Rating: 4.0

if you're calling man overboard "scenecore" be prepared for a fight

Album Rating: 4.0

nvmd lol