Cause, Hillary.

Hell yeah we're having fun over here

Album Rating: 3.0

I suppose you would have to have a lot to say to justify this shit.

"Conceptual originality and execution go much farther than complex rhyme schemes/technicality, and poetry? Are you fucking kidding me? "

its more about how he combines the two so well, content and creativity, whereas artists like el-p (most of their discography) have a terribly hard time making decent music with complex rhyme schemes/technicality.

he has a lot of conceptual originality you are apparently just hear him rapping about "DRUGS" on MMLP and this album and conclude hes been rapping about the same shit. In reality he didn't even do drugs in the past and was writing from a fictional persona, now he is writing about true life experiences. Same goes for any topic you think hes dealing with too much, you just aren't even paying attention to how much his views on these topics have changed and bitching and moaning about HE JUST RAPS ABOUT HIS FAMILY.

you mean a rapper is rapping about his life? what a concept

He has had huge changes in his subject matter and he deals with a lot of concepts, no he doesn't pick up a theasuraus and rap about meaningless abstract robot shit like El-P and Aesop rock, but yeah his lyrics are more complex than a plebe like you will ever get cuz they are filled with old school hip hop references of artists that rocked before you were ejaculated from your daddy's nutsack.


Eminem shits out rappers like Aesop Rock

" we're arguing that he's a flawless lyricist, which you seem to think. " did I say that, or did I say new eminem is not nearly as bad as edgy hipsters make him out to be.

Album Rating: 3.0

what is this suppose to mean



"Medic this headache's awful

this anesthetic is pathetic so is this diabetic waffle

And this prosthetic arm keeps crushing my hard taco"

its annoying how obviously over their heads Eminem is, but if you get enough of them in a room together they think they are right cuz they all repeat the same invalid arguments

Fun shit right here

"its more about how he combines the two so well, content and creativity, whereas artists like el-p (most of their discography) have a terribly hard time making decent music with complex rhyme schemes/technicality."

Isn't El-P almost universally known as one of the most consistent solo hip hop artists of all time?

"he has a lot of conceptual originality you are apparently just hear him rapping about "DRUGS" on MMLP and this album and conclude hes been rapping about the same shit. In reality he didn't even do drugs in the past and was writing from a fictional persona, now he is writing about true life experiences. Same goes for any topic you think hes dealing with too much, you just aren't even paying attention to how much his views on these topics have changed and bitching and moaning about HE JUST RAPS ABOUT HIS FAMILY."

Never said any of this, and you still have yet to make a point. Reiterating the same topic, no matter how much your views may have changed over the years, is still lazy and uninteresting.

"you mean a rapper is rapping about his life? what a concept"

Where did I say this was a negative? All I ask is that they remain fresh and exciting with it, and Em has, in my opinion, failed to do so.

"He has had huge changes in his subject matter and he deals with a lot of concepts, no he doesn't pick up a theasuraus and rap about meaningless abstract robot shit like El-P and Aesop rock, but yeah his lyrics are more complex than a plebe like you will ever get cuz they are filled with old school hip hop references of artists that rocked before you were ejaculated from your daddy's nutsack."

"Meaningless abstract robot shit"? And you're saying Eminem goes over my head? Jesus Christ... Also, referencing old-school hip hop artists doesn't make you complex; if anything, it also makes you lazy. Oh yeah, how old are you again?

"Eminem shits out rappers like Aesop Rock"

Over a decade ago, sure.

"its annoying how obviously over their heads Eminem is, but if you get enough of them in a room together they think they are right cuz they all repeat the same invalid arguments"

You haven't made a single valid argument, and I doubt you will.

"Isn't El-P almost universally known as one of the most consistent solo hip hop artists of all time?"

maybe to people who have heard like 3 hip hop artists in their life. Eminem is far more consistent and he puts more wit into one bar than El-P puts into entire albums

"Reiterating the same topic, no matter how much your views may have changed over the years, is still lazy and uninteresting."

yeah the point of my comment was hes NOT reiterating the same topic and you are too obtuse to actually listen to what he is saying without shutting your brain off any time something like drugs happens to enter in his story. Again, this album is about his real struggle with drug addiction, that is very different than any topic he has ever rapped about hitherto, and by MMLP2 he has come up with a number of new topics, the most obvious being his love of classic rock and how it influenced his rap style and life, and he rarely discusses addiction at all. I missed the part where he rapped about classic rock on all his other albums...

"And you're saying Eminem goes over my head?" YES

its the way he references old school hip hop artists that you are too young to know of, then you start whining about "HIS LYRICS AREN'T THAT COMPLEX' cuz you don't even get the double entendres

"You haven't made a single valid argument, and I doubt you will."

yeah the validity of my arguments isn't determined by whether or not a stubborn obtuse kid on the internet swallows his pride and agrees with them. i dont even know why you are still responding you are just repeating that you don't like eminem cuz you don't like eminem

the worst part is you seem to think changing the topic of your music is the most important thing a rapper can do, while you simultaneously worship El-P who has done nothing his entire career but made lazy allusions to 1984

I'm repeating myself because it's funny as fuck how seriously you're taking this.

"maybe to people who have heard like 3 hip hop artists in their life. Eminem is far more consistent and he puts more wit into one bar than El-P puts into entire albums"

Bullshit.

"yeah the point of my comment was hes NOT reiterating the same topic and you are too obtuse to actually listen to what he is saying without shutting your brain off any time something like drugs happens to enter in his story"

Stop making excuses. Also, that's not enough.

"its the way he references old school hip hop artists that you are too young to know of, then you start whining about "HIS LYRICS AREN'T THAT COMPLEX' cuz you don't even get the double entendres"

How could you not get them? They're used in the most ham-fisted and unsubtle way possible. Nobody's too young to be aware of early hip hop artists, probably because the internet has been a thing for decades now, and again, referencing other hip hop artists is far from praise-worthy or an indicator of complexity. In fact, that opinion is simply laughable.

"yeah the validity of my arguments isn't determined by whether or not a stubborn obtuse kid on the internet swallows his pride and agrees with them. i dont even know why you are still responding you are just repeating that you don't like eminem cuz you don't like eminem"

Kid? You smack hard of a stereotypical fucking stan, and I never said I didn't like him. In fact, I've stated multiple times that I'm a huge fan of his earlier work, and that I agree he's a talented lyricist, but as soon as you acknowledge the fact that he IS flawed, I'll stop commenting.

"the worst part is you seem to think changing the topic of your music is the most important thing a rapper can do, while you simultaneously worship El-P who has done nothing his entire career but made lazy allusions to 1984"

Never said that at all, all I said is that he's been lacking in conceptual freshness and originality in recent years, which is a different idea altogether. Plus, if you're really going to make the stupid fucking claim that Em is going over my head, then don't make it so plainly obvious that El is going over yours.

anyone reading this can tell you are taking this more seriously than I, but ok (you just responded to me within 1 minute)

"a stereotypical fucking stan" lol, eminem isn't even a top 10 rapper in my book, the "stan" ad hominem has beed used ad-nasuem by hip hop noob kids, in the meantime legendary emcees from Redman to KRS-One to Nas have all praised both new and old eminem. In other words you are a joke clinging onto stupid catchphrases that were played out a decade ago.

"Stop making excuses. Also, that's not enough." any time i make a valid argument its "an excuse". lots of people relate to his stories of drug addiction, whether or not you enjoy them doesn't really matter or make his music bad or unoriginal, it is obviously not unoriginal when this is his first album hitherto that deals with his struggles with drug addiction.

you aren't even acknowledging my actual points and are just being obtuse so im gonna stop wasting my time with you, I have repeated the thing about the old school references like 3 times and you still are arguing with a strawman. like, you care that much about winning an internet argument that you stoop to this level

Every rappers is flawed in some way you jabronie

El-P's wack struggle-bars flow isn't even capable of being coherent half the time, hes not going over anyones head except kids who never read 1984

Aha, not good enough.

"anyone reading this can tell you are taking this more seriously than I, but ok (you just responded to me within 1 minute)"

I sincerely doubt that, stan.

"lol, eminem isn't even a top 10 rapper in my book, the "stan" ad hominem has beed used ad-nasuem by hip hop noob kids, in the meantime legendary emcees from Redman to KRS-One to Nas have all praised both new and old eminem. In other words you are a joke clinging onto stupid catchphrases that were played out a decade ago."

Then why are you trying so desperately to defend him? Two of these three rappers haven't made anything noteworthy in two decades, plus showing respect doesn't always necessarily mean "I like all his music, even the music that's generally accepted to be shit".

"any time i make a valid argument its "an excuse". lots of people relate to his stories of drug addiction, whether or not you enjoy them doesn't really matter or make his music bad or unoriginal, it is obviously not unoriginal when this is his first album hitherto that deals with his struggles with drug addiction."

It wasn't a valid argument, it was a fucking excuse. I'm willing to acknowledge the difference between something I enjoy and something that's good, but in my honest opinion, his post-TES albums just aren't good. Just because a lot of people relate doesn't render any of the criticisms I've made null or void. Also, the fuck does the last part of that sentence even mean? He struggled with drugs, so it's original? Even then, we're not talking about Eminem 16 years ago, we're talking about him now.

"you aren't even acknowledging my actual points and are just being obtuse so im gonna stop wasting my time with you, I have repeated the thing about the old school references like 3 times and you still are arguing with a strawman. like, you care that much about winning an internet argument that you stoop to this level"

You're not making any actual fucking points. Also, straw man? This ain't fucking high school, plus nothing about anything I said rationally qualifies as a strawmanning. You say his lyrics are too complex for me because he's making references to old-school rappers, I say that referencing old school rappers does not equal complexity. Point addressed, and how are you too oblivious to realize that I'm basically fucking with you at this point?

"Every rappers is flawed in some way you jabronie"

Then recognize a flaw. Please, for the love of God, stop dick riding and honestly acknowledge one.

cont.

"El-P's wack struggle-bars flow isn't even capable of being coherent half the time, hes not going over anyones head except kids who never read 1984"

Read it in Ms. Worrell's class in 6th grade, picked it out of her motherfucking bookshelf myself, then read it again Junior year, around the same time we studied fallacious arguments, like your pussy ass straw man. This is one of them; not every portrayal of the government as a dystopian society is a direct reference to 1984.

"Two of these three rappers haven't made anything noteworthy in two decades,"

stopped reading lol

Album Rating: 3.0

Bloody hell guys.

Ikr

Many laughs were had ha ha good times

Album Rating: 3.5

album is still all right tho

Album Rating: 3.0

Na m8.

Album Rating: 4.0

jesus christ im so glad i didnt read all of that

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