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so every time someone does something distinctive it's transcendental?

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I caught that just now. But yes. I'm not denying that this band came from other bands' sounds but they took those sounds and took them to another level and it's been unmatched and may be for a while. Album is a 5/5 and nothing less. I'd love be proved wrong but so far I'm not.

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Show me something that evolves like The Pecan Tree and I'll stand corrected.

lol @ snox's cake thing

"yeah but i think this band carved out their own thang from all that, and did a pretty good job of it too."
Depends on what you mean by that. Sure, there's no album exactly like this. There are albums with the same elements, though. I've pointed out how this whole Cascadian shenanigans is eerily similar to certain U.S. bands and a bunch of European "underground" bands that have been around since the 90s.

Hell, the European scene has actually been much more "experimental" with various styles than anything the "Cascadians" have ever done.

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Boring? That's your opinion. But it starts with beautiful shoegaze over a back drop of metal vocals and drums. Evolves over shoegaze, transforms over post rock, piano moves in, and beautiful shoegaze meets metal/je ne se quoi moves in with some gorgeous screaming with feeling while the hauntingly beautiful guitar comes in. To me, Sunbather is as if MBV's Loveless took cocaine. It's on the same level of expertise, just in a different level. The pop like accessibility is there, just not everyone will appreciate, but others will form with similar sound in the future just as others with Loveless

Depends on what you mean by that.

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True that. But these guys > Lantlos. I love me some Lantlos but it doesn't even hold a candle.

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I just said give me a song that sounds similar to The Pecan Tree and no one can answer lol (oh right. It doesn't exist yet)

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Exactly. Can't answer.

I just said give me a song that sounds similar to The Pecan Tree and no one can answer

No, the request is just inherently dumb since you no song will be the same to you because you can't turn off your perspective and just analyze it mechanically.


So yeah, stop being a dipshit.

"all i meant was i can distinguish between these guys and Lantlos in the same way that i can distinguish saaaay Slowdive and My Bloody Valentine; bands playing the same kind of music but carving out their own "identity"



also i wouldn't lump these guys in with "Cascadian" bm or whatever you wanna call that thing"
Alright, fair assessment. *I* didnt, they (and a majority of "Blackgaze" or whatever bands) had that tag ascribed to them by their fanbase and whomever.

I thought that term is dumb from the get-go and I have elaborated as to why I think so.

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But none of those reach the brilliance of this album. I have and listened to each band listed. Geez.

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Archivist is the closest tho. I'll give you that. "Leaving Day" is wonderful but it's still no Pecan Tree, sorry.

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Similar... But not as good. See this album is on another level in terms of quality.



Sunbather has a je ne sais quoi that isn't matched anywhere to its peers.

jesus fucking christ [666]

also: QED

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I want something that goes through the same movements of TPT and Archivist is closest, but it's still not the same. I like the blackgaze scene. But I just know nothing comes close to this album. It may be personal, but at the same time a lot of others agree as well. There's just something undeniably special about this album that many others don't have, and it's not necessarily easy to describe (je ne sais quoi), but I'll know it when I hear it and I haven't heard anything match it yet, but I'd love to

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But I want something else that matches the quality and emotion I get from hearing this album that had the same style and so far I'm left unanswered

And that is exactly why I said the request was inherently dumb because I knew he would just go on the "oh yeah but it doesn't feel the same"-route.

Well, no fucking shit.


I think the most influential thing about Deafheaven is all the bullshit "controversy" and discussion it's stirred up.

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But why is it automatically not transcendental because it borrowed roots from others? It may have borrowed roots from others but it took them elsewhere that hadnt been matched before and hadn't been matched yet. Not to mention it can't be lumped. Blackgaze is what I said before for easier classification but if you want classification for what it is then it is post rock/metal/shoegaze/skramz/Emo/dream pop/space rock/alt rock and until I find a band I can lump into those categories smoothly with a major shoegaze background I'm unsatisfied.