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i feel like it's obviously bm with post-rock and skramz influence... but to each his own i suppose
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I just feel it's the other way around. BM elements for sure, but it's not BM. It's much more compositionally post rock. I really like Sunbather so this isn't a dig at it.
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Album Rating: 4.0
feel like it's obviously bm with post-rock and skramz influence[2]
First time I heard them, I was like, "wtf kind of black metal is this?"
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You're entitled to your opinion, guys and girls, but don't think I'm on some kvlt crusade or anything. Calling it BM doesn't ordain it with some special title, for me. It's just that I think it sounds more like a post rock shell with a BM filling than the other way around.
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And this album, well it's just a garbage bag full of turds.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Wrong.
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On the second comment perhaps.
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Album Rating: 4.0
sunbather is black metal get over it it's been 3 years[2]
can't believe this is still a point of debate
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Well, that's because some people have conflicting opinions. Dunno why you're getting so prickly about it, you guys. It's primarily post rock to me, but with strong BM elements. You're welcome to think otherwise but you won't change my opinion.
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
What about SNBTHR's "composition" was more post-rock than black metal? For Vertigo I could maaaaaybe give you the point, but Pecan Tree is straight-up WitTR worship.
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
Also I think I counted one time and ~1/2 of the record is comprised of blast beating tremolo passages, so idk if "primarily post-rock" is really the right phrase.
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Album Rating: 4.5
Who really cares guys hahahaha
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Album Rating: 4.0
yeah, I wasn't trying to argue or convince anyone of anything, just stating my thoughts when I first heard the band.
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Album Rating: 4.0
3 god damn fucking years move on
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
hawks if we don't have pedantic genre debates then it ceases being a metal discussion.
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Album Rating: 4.5
You know what..... You're absolutely right. m/
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The tension and release that most songs are based around, plus the generous helping of clean parts. I see the WitTR comparison, but then again, they aren't exactly what I think of when I think of BM anyway. I fully understand and appreciate that the genre has evolved since Venom, Bathory, etc but the after many iterations away from BM roots, just blasts and howls don't necessarily make BM anymore.
BM is so heavily based in a specific atmosphere and aesthetic that I don't really see the connection that elements of BM (blasts, howls, tremolo riffs) alone make for BM anymore.
Really all I'm trying to say in this thread is that I personally have a slightly narrower conception of what constitutes BM. That and the more post rock driven composition of Sunbather make me hear something that is BM influenced but not necessarily BM. I still love Sunbather, like I've said many times, so this isn't me trying to discredit it, more just trying to reign in today's very generous definition of what BM is.
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Yeah dudes I'm just trying to express an opinion here, it's all in good fun.
edit: fuckin pagebreak
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Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off
the build-release idea goes all the way back to Weakling tho and they ist american kvlt soooo ;) Also check out Leucosis; their first album is entirely built upon slow doomy junk building up to blasting and then doing it over and over again for an entire record and they're really lo-fi bm.
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I'm not saying it's totally unique to that album but the motif is generally associated with post rock, ya know?
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