Album Rating: 3.5

"with you though just chill out"

lol then why did you even start this conversation? c'mon, you accuse other people of being way too serious but take shit like that serious which is obvious bullshitting.



"something positive for once in your sputnik lifetime"

a long time ago niggah, niggah - I was just like you





edit: and what rosa said.

Album Rating: 5.0

why did I start this conversation?



you came into this thread saying something just to get a reaction, instead of talking about the music or something, and then get defensive when I apparently start this conversation? you just go around trying to start shit.



chill out

Album Rating: 5.0

album is pretty cool, I like his flow and how he changes from that voice that half of the people I know seem to hate into that hard gangster shit right away



what do you like about the album, you rated it a 3.5. let's talk about this please.

Album Rating: 3.5

Idk I'm feelin' pretty chill, man. Also, arguing =/= getting defensive - some people seriously have to get the notion of arguing = fighting out of their heads.



"what do you like about the album, you rated it a 3.5. let's talk about this please."

Well, as I said - the beats are pretty swell and fit to his voice(s), he's got good flow and he's pretty enthusiastic/attention grabbing (see Billy Woods for more serious reference here). He's also got some sweet rhymes and incorporates some cool references here and there. Not sure whether he takes himself seriously but another point for me is that it at least seems like he's not to be taken seriously.



I mean his content is pretty standard rap stuff. But one of my favorite songs off here is probably one of the dumbest, Bruiser Brigade.

Album Rating: 5.0

bruiser brigade makes me cringe

Album Rating: 3.5

"because it bumps so hard in the car"

Can def. see that.



Bruiser Brigade makes me chuckle.

Album Rating: 5.0

I can dig all that you're saying.



I sort of agree and sort of disagree about you saying his content is "standard rap stuff." On one hand, yeah it's about getting fucked up and bitches and huzzah, but it's more than that. The whole thing flows together really well as this story about his addictions and struggles and finally accepting who he is and his place in the world. One of the reasons I am connecting with this album so much right now is because it is making me realize that hip-hop containing these sorts of "standard rap" cliches (for lack of a better word) isn't necessarily as shallow as it seems.



I don't know, this is just a special record. I could see it becoming a favourite of mine pretty easily.

Album Rating: 3.5

"addictions and struggles and finally accepting who he is and his place in the world."

That's what I have a big problem with, stuff like DNA just makes my head spin because the notion of it is so incredibly stupid. I mean, our DNA has quite an influence but our behavior is roughly 60% conditioned. And the notion that you "just accept who you are" is also something I strongly oppose, I can get your point of view since these concepts are pretty ingrained in our thinking but they oppose every bit of psychological knowledge I have.



well, I just don't take Bruiser Brigade seriously because let's be honest, Danny Brown being all tuff guy isn't any authentic at all anyway.

Album Rating: 5.0

the way it's bookended for me make the album a 4.5



from 'XXX':

Cause if this shit don't work, nigga I failed at life

Turning to these drugs, now these drugs turned my life

And it's the downward spiral, got me suicidal

But too scared to do it so these pills will be the rifle

Surpassing all my idols, took the wrong turn

But can't go back now so now let that blunt burn

Cause now its my turn if I fuck it all up

Took a while to get here now I depend on these drugs

Triple X

But I always tell myself that it's gonna get better

You know who you is, you the greatest rapper ever

So now the pressures on 'em to prove that voice right

Some people never know they goals, knew mine my whole life

So now his turn up fixing up to bat

Pitching singles to the label when I use to pitch crack

I never learned to rap, always knew how

Ever since a nigga 8, knew what I would do now

When I turned 28 they like what you gonna do now

And now a nigga 30 So I don’t ya'll heard me

That the last ten years I been so fucking stressed

Tears in my eyes let me get this off my chest

The thought of no success got a nigga chasing death

Doing all these drugs in hopes of OD’ing next, Triple X

Album Rating: 5.0

having one song about DNA in a track of 19 is whatever. I disagree with what you're saying in that post, and think that people are (can be) genetically predisposed towards certain addictions or general behaviour. Obviously he's not blaming his entire life on that.

Album Rating: 5.0

well ok i don't disagree with what you said in that post actually, i misspoke there

Album Rating: 3.5

Well, those are def. better than DNA but it kinda still comes off to me in the most common sense of people having certain issues - realizing they have issues bot not actually trying to do something about it which just doesn't really sit right with me. I mean if you seriously try to deal with it on your own and fail that's alright but - as I said - it comes off like there was or are no attempts at that.



And for similar reasons I'm also not all that interested/thrilled by the "broken man" story anymore.



Adrian you and your misinterpretations, I said exactly the same thing. DNA has influence on predispositions and tendencies, especially addictions - but it doesn't control your behavior. The point is these predispositions ect. are mostly how your brain and body work, not how you actually behave - how YOU react to how your body works.

Album Rating: 3.5

There's also the minor point that all this "pussytalk" reminds me of all the bigotry that people have no problem being bombarded with heterosexual endeavors, content and private affairs on all fronts but when homosexuals do it people get all up in arms and shit. And that sits even worse with me.

Album Rating: 5.0

I understand what you're saying. I think the great thing about this album though is how he just presents all that stuff, all the negativity and super retarded stuff he has done in his life, but frames it in the context of understanding that he is more than just that, and that he's grown to be define himself as a person rather than letting something else define him.

Album Rating: 3.5

Looking at it from that perspective definitely makes it seem 'different' and more cohesive. (and less like just another story of a "broken man")

i feel somewhat unable to articulate my thoughts on this right now but i think adrian is landing closer to home on this for me. this album is indicative of a dude who is self-aware enough to see that his behavior is self-destructive (die like a rockstar) and also aware the things that push him to drugs, which are referenced throughout the record. interpreting a song like DNA as danny trying to absolve himself of responsibility or something is just wrong. 30, XXX, EWNESW, fields, etc all speak to this in much more self-aware terms. i have more to say about this that i haven't really thought enough about, but i really think all this album expresses a very real sense of dissonance between a lifestyle and the awareness that it is a harmful one.

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah, you're probably right but it was less about presuming that he's trying to relieve himself of responsibility. It was more than what was coming across to me as vibe off "hey, it's in my DNA" like people say "it's in the family".

As I said, even under the aspect that this interpretation isn't likely, for me it's still just another story of a "broken man" who might be aware of what he does but doesn't seem like he's trying to actually do something about it making this awareness effectually almost worthless.

Album Rating: 5.0

but he has done something about it, that's the point of the album and the my whole argument here. he used to be a victim, "broken man" kind of guy, but he smartened up. it's a story of overcoming those lazy thoughts and taking control of your own life.

i think it does reflect i struggle and the end of the album is def sort of triumphant but he has not and never will be rid of his past. even the last line of the album is self-doubtful and self-destructive.

doesn't seem like he's trying to actually do something about it making this awareness effectually almost worthless.