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I heard Jesse was at Bad Books' most recent show and still seemed on good terms with Andy and Kevin

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Why wouldn’t they be — the allegation stuff? Or did they have some kind of falling out I didn’t know about?



At any rate, good to hear.

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After the allegations Kevin dropped out of touring with BN and Andy said he'd never play with the band again. Before that they were all thick as thieves though, including Aaron (mwY) and Dustin (Thrice). So it appears at the very least they've forgiven him for his past.

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I dunno man, that shit was pretty far back in his past. I must be a psycho or something because I wasn’t that bothered by it. And I have two young daughters.



If it was an ongoing recent thing, I would have been more bothered (would still listen to the music though — that’ll never change).

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I feel the same way. I guess it depends on a lot of factors in your life as to how much it bothers you. Some people, especially in the months right after, were shaming people for even admitting that they still listen to the band. I'm not defending his actions, but they were a long time ago and he's pretty visibly a different man - and has been for over a decade. Maybe I'm just too nice, but I've always lived by the idea that you forgive as you'd want to be forgiven. I think Andy and Kevin agree.

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True. I won’t judge anyone by how they feel about it and I expect the same from others regarding my reaction.



It’s not like you can really help how you feel about something. It just is what it is.

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Agreed. My favorite on here.

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In the Water puts me in a feel that no other song ever has

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You seriously believe that the stuff was 'new news' to Kevin and Andy? Or that as a community they don't all have knowledge of who has done what, because I'm sure there are so many of their peers who have done the same stuff that just never got publicized, but they're all internal secrets amongst the musicians.

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It would surprise me if Kevin knew nothing at all. But I could see Andy being totally out of the loop

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who's kevin & andy

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bro

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That's just silly you can't claim sexism when you're the aggressor lol

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????????????????????????????????????????

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Okay... but who's kevin & andy

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thanks whiteprideworldwide

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what the fuck is wrong with you

you need to stop now

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a pedophile and a racist, who could have seen it coming?

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There's something to be said for letting a man alone with his transgressions and not running his life into the ground for something that happened a long time ago, but what you're saying is a tad ridiculous kaiwaz. Just chill with that shit, it's really wrong. I'd be happy to have a separate conversation as to why that's the case but there's no sense in spewing it here in this thread.