I'm finding lately most Deftones are growers, it's just hard to tell if it's a grower that'll satisfy down the line (I love Yokan now) or something like Gore which is still unmemorable

Album Rating: 2.5

This did not grow at all for me, pretty much did the opposite.

Album Rating: 3.0

"I can definitely tell Ohms is gonna take some time, hardly any tracks left much of an impression on first listen."



"Idk, like I say it's only the first listen so I'm hoping it grows."



lol @ pleb

Album Rating: 4.0

"Pittura Infamante" is a LOT better than I remembered

Album Rating: 4.5

My favorites on this shift a lot but prayers, Pittura, and xenon stay at the bottom for me since day 1. Cool stuff but just much better content elsewhere

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Yeah Pittura is actually pretty good haha

Album Rating: 2.0

Why do the drums sound like that?

Album Rating: 3.0

because the production is garbage

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Production has always been flat on this, but production in general doesn’t bother me too much, so thought it was “ok” on here.



Ohms sounds 1000x times better though for sure

Album Rating: 3.5

Production is flat and there are some pretty weird songwriting choices here but theres some really good stuff here too

Album Rating: 3.5

Every band's discography needs an album like this, I don't love it but I certainly appreciate it. The production is still awful and it still kneecaps the album completely.

Album Rating: 3.5

also 4 years, fuck me

Album Rating: 3.0

This sounds even worse after Ohms. Would bump this down but I still enjoy Prayers/Triangles, t/t, Rubicon, Doomed User and Phantom Bride (don't really get why people hate this song, tbh).

Who the fuck dropped the rating? This is still good, even after Ohms.

"This sounds even worse after Ohms. Would bump this down but I still enjoy Prayers/Triangles, t/t, Rubicon, Doomed User and Phantom Bride (don't really get why people hate this song, tbh)."

I'd also add Acid Hologram (dig the fuzz), Pittura Infamante (dig the upbeat riffs) and Hearts / Wires (dig the dynamic structure). (L)MIRL would also be great if the bass wasn't destroyed production-wise.

Really great record idk

Album Rating: 3.0

I never disliked this album, though it is still their worst. I particularly love Acid Hologram, LMIRL, Rubicon, and Hearts/Wires.



That being said, now that I know what they're still capable of this late in their career (Ohms!), I like this even less now!

Album Rating: 4.0

yap, considering lowering my rate, for that same reason...agreed...on other hand...you don't love Phantom Bride?

Album Rating: 3.5 | Sound Off

Even though Ohms is on another level compared to this, I’ll leave this at a 3.5

It’s still a good album, just below their standards

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah, I mean, it's still better than diamond eyes, but pales in comparison to Ohms ofc

Album Rating: 3.5

Phantom Bride is amazing! I defended this quite a lot when it came out, but in comparison with KNY and Ohms it really is a little bit weak.. Not a bad album by any means tho.