Djent overall is a silly genre and thing. Id just call Archspire tech death and leave it at that

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"again what the fuck is djent I don't know that word that keeps getting tossed around like a college spinner for everything here lol"

It's overused for sure. It's a neologism that spun out of metalheads referring to certain heavy riffs as just being a "djun djun djun" sort of sound, especially for riffs that were repetitive in nature. It's why Meshuggah was given the moniker before it overtook a lot of metalcore music. Then it metastasized and is now the defacto word used to describe any metal a person doesn't have a personal taste for. The etymology of the word goes directly back to Meshuggah's guitarist although he only used "dj- dj- dj-" as a simple example of how they wanted to sound.

having never listened to this band before last week and now jamming this and bleed the future a bunch i think i def prefer this one

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"does Archspire is gay??"



Rumor come out!

"dj-dj-dj" just sounds like any heavy metal guitar though lol

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Calling it 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 isn't very catchy, that's why

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"dj-dj-dj" just sounds like any heavy metal guitar though lol



Now you see why it has permeated every other genre of metal! What was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek comment about a band's intended sound evolved into this all-encapsulating "genre" that is misappropriated and used to either describe or deride a particular band or album or whatever.

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This is STILL growing on me, at this point I think it's actually just as good as BTF. They changed up their sound JUST enough to sound fresh but still 100% like themselves, that alone is a actually quite the feat.

“Then it metastasized and is now the defacto word used to describe any metal a person doesn't have a personal taste for.”

I don’t agree with this portion of your statement really. Lots of people dislike djent and think aspects of it are lowest common denominator (it is at times), and thus will shit on djent bands when they lean too far into it such as stupid pristine prod, the actual dj dj dj style sound (no not a normal chug. More like Tesseract, AAL, etc you know the sound) done ad nauseam with no additional melodicism or flare, etc. but people don’t go looking for metal bands they don’t like and call them djent. It very much stands for something on its own and is a pretty widely recognized subgenre of metal within the sphere of people who listen to such things even if it were born out of some tongue in cheek.

That’s why Nude saying he doesn’t know what it is, when he loves Periphery who actually made an album named after the debate we’re now having, is… something

And no, Archspire is not djent

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I get you Nash. Maybe I shouldn't have generalized it too much in my initial answer. I am 100% on-board with your interpretation as well. What I was referring mainly had to do with folks taking the term "djent" and unnecessarily extrapolating it to non-djent metal (for example, this very thread where specific individuals are using "djent" two-fold: as an insult and as a mischaracterization).

You're on point that, within the genre, "djent" has essentially become flanderized and the majority of djent-related arguments deal with the oversaturation of that particular brand of metal in the type of music central to this site.



"but people don’t go looking for metal bands they don’t like and call them djent"

Maybe not the general metal population but it is certainly used as a cudgel against particular bands on this very site. This is one point I very much disagree with. "Djent" is thrown around here like a euphemism for bad metal.

I think when things are referred to as "djenty" it's referring to an ethos rather than a sound. Super precise and on-the-grid, meticulously guitar pro'd in advance, sounds good on a variety of audio setups. The opposite of DSBM recorded in a crackhouse basement basically.

I wouldn't personally consider it a positive or a negative.

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"I think when things are referred to as "djenty" it's referring to an ethos rather than a sound. Super precise and on-the-grid, meticulously guitar pro'd in advance, sounds good on a variety of audio setups. The opposite of DSBM recorded in a crackhouse basement basically."



Then I think the term has been very bastardized and diluted of its actual meaning. "Overproduced" is a simple enough term to describe everything you listed. Devin Townsend's stuff sort of fits that mold but it sure as shit ain't djent.

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Djent bands are kind of the poster child of overproduced metalcore. Maybe not the originators but they at the very least made it more mainstream and acceptable to the larger metal community. Deathcore and prog bands can be just as bad though agreed

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yeah djent's defining characteristics are the guitar tone and polyrhythmic palm muted riffs. the production is definitely a secondary characteristic, especially in the early days where it was a lot of solo musicians in their bedrooms, but i suppose you could still dj0nt with a more natural sound