Album Rating: 3.0

production thoughts aside it’s just nice to hear deathcore with riffs again. i’m enjoying seeing new people get into this older sound. i cannot stand how riffless modern dxc is

Album Rating: 4.0

"Yeah there’s a broader trend in modern media toward remaking/remastering established classics rather than taking creative risks and it kind of sucks. I mean, reissues and remakes and what have you aren’t inherently bad, and I think in some instances the original artistic intent is preserved amazingly well (and in very few cases even improved), but too often it’s just monetized nostalgia and a loss of historical context."

NGL I think that accusing BMTH of this considering how much they've experimented and changed over the years isn't massively fair.

@trilo - probs can extend that to most metalcore in general

@PyramidNoise - eh, most of the change has been in the direction of making them more accessible and mainstream, and even then the person behind the experimentation and creativity was Jordan by most peoples accounts (how true in reality that is idk)

i dont think theyre money grabbing sharks or whatever but its an easy mainstreamy band making an easy, safe decision even if the music here is heavy

Album Rating: 2.5

This sounds way too stiff. Surprised to see so much positive reaction. Sucked the soul of the original imo. The charm of these core bands was that it sounds amateurish but still had songwriting and musician chops. Shit is flat as hell

Album Rating: 2.5

All core rerecordings are a mistake

the beauty of the og is they're completely flying by the seat of their pants. there could be a breakdown or tempo change or some shitty sweep picking at any moment. the energy was uncontainable. that gets lost once you quantize everything to a grid

Album Rating: 3.5

I do wish the guitars had some more weight and volume behind them but that's my only big complaint. Drums sound a little overtuned in comparison. Vocally it's in a sweet spot and the new song kicks ass.

Album Rating: 1.5

"NGL I think that accusing BMTH of this considering how much they've experimented and changed over the years isn't massively fair."



tbf I was speaking broadly, but honestly, I wouldn't call these guys especially experimental. Their music is about as safe/generic as the genre gets.

Album Rating: 4.0

still can’t get over how good oli sounds here

the riffs have way more room to breathe where on the original they felt smothered by the production, but i totally get the overproduced critique. for some reason it doesn’t bother me at all

Album Rating: 2.5

I think Alex nailed it perfectly. That sense of randomness and unpredictability is completely gone on the rerecord. I dug it cuz it was imperfect and sounds like teenagers making edgy shit for fun. This is just lifeless by comparison. I would rate it lower if I didn't have fondness of the OG

The amount that it's overproduced is overstated a bit, but after revisiting it recently I really don't think it needed a redo at all.

if anything it’s being understated tbh

jr my man i knew you would not be fooled m/

Album Rating: 4.5

If I'm being honest, neither version (this or the original) sound how I want them to; I wish more bands would do live recording, I think those albums lend themselves the best to the types of production I enjoy. That said, this version is infinitely more listenable to me and it actually has made me a bigger fan of an album I was mostly tepid on. In that regard, the boys did it. Also, Dehumanized is outstanding and I really hope this whole process leads to heavier BMTH moving forward.

Kind of interesting how the guitars sound blown out and yet sometimes overly digitized at the same time.

Album Rating: 2.5

Hell yea Futures, it's hard for me to be on board with this. Just too different from what I typically like in my deathcore. The genre is at its best when it's raw and unpolished for me. The new song also didn't really do much for me which I think is a further testament to how I feel

Album Rating: 4.0

"Production thoughts aside it’s just nice to hear deathcore with riffs again. i’m enjoying seeing new people get into this older sound. i cannot stand how riffless modern dxc is"



Bingo. Preach Trilobro



I don't mind these redos at all, "money grubbing" or otherwise. As long as the bands keep putting out new stuff I don't care if they take a side quest to cash in on nostalgia. You don't have to listen to it and even if you feel obligated it's like an hour of your time. Honestly it would have been equally as safe for them to poop out a sterile pop album that the masses would lap up. This at least goes against the grain of what's made them who they are now.

Nice to see them getting inspiration from Theory in Practice here

Album Rating: 3.5

Alright gonna try and get through this today. The sidechaining is noticeable but out of everything, it's the snare that's really not doing it for me. Classic production complaint I know, but like, just use a live snare instead of sampling Imagine Dragons?

“ The charm of these core bands was that it sounds amateurish but still had songwriting and musician chops. Shit is flat as hell”

This is a 10/10 take. The super sampled production style on modern core albums also removes like all of the energy from the recording. I want it to sound like a bunch of folks in a room ripping on their instruments, not like some dork plugged each instrument in note by note