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also for a serious response: https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2012/mar/22/world-music-outdated-offensive is a good read on why I and many others consider it offensive / outdated / slightly racist etc etc etc
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I see "world music" as music with a sound that's characteristic from a certain area of the world that's, played by someone who's not from there (white western people in this case) and/or that's played for an audience that's not from these areas either (white westerns again)
I don't see that as racist at all
If your music has an "african" vibe and is played with african instruments that's no disrespect for the african culture and it doesn't imply that africans can only play that kind of music
Really how many of those here who think it is a racist term are from an area from which "world music" comes? Cause it would be pretty funny to see americans/europeans discussing about it. Like a colloquium about the implications of abortion made by men only
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"For a start, it implies cultural superiority. Artists from America and Europe tend not to get stuck in the world section, just those that don't speak English or come from "exotic" parts of the world. They can be consigned safely to the world music ghetto, ignored by the mainstream and drooled over by those who approach music as an offshoot of anthropology."
this is kinda where im coming from, not that ppl who use it are racist but rather how it's employed within the music industry...
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I don't think it implies cultural superiority. On the opposite, I see it as a recognition to the quality of music from other places of the world. If you, as a serious musician, take influence from other cultures' music, I assume it is because you see the quality on it (in the case of this EP however, I think you could argue it makes use of foreign sounds just for the sake of sounding "exotic", yeah)
I agree on the fact that American or Europeans artists don't get labeled with the tag. But if you ask me, if someone in India starts making music on banjo, yeah, it could be considered "world music" in that area of the world, just as you'd do with an american playing sitar.
The way I see the term, you could even apply it to music that uses celtic vibes or bagpipes since it's a style associated with a certain culture/area, even if it is a western one.
I think the conclusion is that the term isn't wrong per se, but it certainly gets misused sometimes, specially by critics/media
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"I don't think it implies cultural superiority"
"I agree on the fact that American or European artists dont get labeled with the tag"
I think your perspective on what world music means to you is great and pure and 100% fine but I just personally wish it would die a slow, quiet death within the music industry, how new music from other countries are labeled as, and especially within bands like Coldplay attempting to ...imitate? it?
not trying to argue you make some good points and your final one is why I think critics and reviewers especially should attempt to stop using the term altogether
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Perhaps the term shouldn't die, but its mainstream meaning should change
And yeah don't worry bro. I understand there's fundaments on your posture
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good talk im a fan of the casual debates mr sir lord gent
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needed more insults, controversial users whining, comment wiping and bans but yeah
9/10 would debate again
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"I see "world music" as music with a sound that's characteristic from a certain area of the world that's, played by someone who's not from there (white western people in this case) and/or that's played for an audience that's not from these areas either (white westerns again)"
The problem with that rational is that it puts every type of music that isn't "western contemporary" in the same box. It would be like comparing Bossa Nova to Gamelan. On Sput we'll differentiate between Post / Prog / Alternative genres but one you tie a foreign culture to it it just becomes "music".
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Album Rating: 3.0
*whine*
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"On Sput we'll differentiate between Post / Prog / Alternative genres but one you tie a foreign culture to it it just becomes "music"."
Lmao agreed, but in my case I do agree that world music is kinda just an easy thing to use to get out of researching something. For example, I was having trouble differentiating some of the different foreign sounds in this EP and would try my damnedest not to just call it "world" or "exotic"... I managed to not pass completely
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you did well, even put world in quotes, this isn't to dimish ur review my dude neeka
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No I know, I appreciate it! (: I was just saying how it's easy for some people to fall into that trap of the word, it's like a scapegoat term
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"The problem with that rational is that it puts every type of music that isn't "western contemporary" in the same box. It would be like comparing Bossa Nova to Gamelan. On Sput we'll differentiate between Post / Prog / Alternative genres but one you tie a foreign culture to it it just becomes "music". "
As neeka said, I see it as a more generic term, just like people which lack a super big music knowledge would use "alternative rock" to describe pretty much any rock album made in the last 15 years.
I'm a victim of this too. I hate when people use the term "classic rock" since it does seem like they're throwing so many styles of 60's-80's (even 90's now omg) music on the same box. But I understand why people that lacks a deep knowledge of music and that's not a melomaniac like us would use a more general concept
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I definitely get how some could see it as racist or offensive, it's definitely a privilege thing too to be able to use the phrase
I'm also guilty and talking from experience because I got called out on my radio show by my co-host for using the term lol
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"As neeka said, I see it as a more generic term, just like people that lacks a super big music knowledge would use "alternative rock" to describe pretty much any rock album made in the last 15 years."
"but in my case I do agree that world music is kinda just an easy thing to use to get out of researching something."
I can see that. I don't want to sound like I'm attacking either of you. My bigger beef is that when bands like Coldplay want to incorporate different cultural styles of music, maybe they should learn a thing or two about them.
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I agree on that.
as I said on the edit I did to my long comment up in this page, it seems like Coldplay is using in here different styles of music from the world just for the sake of sounding exotic and now that I do see as kinda insulting
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y'all are making me sad that I kinda dig this
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I do love old Coldplay if that works for something
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Album Rating: 3.0
To be fair this is the only coldplay I don't like
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