Album Rating: 1.0
"why don't you just go cry to jom in the user's thread about how i'm being a meanyface instead?"
I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health.
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Album Rating: 3.5
idk I felt there was a bit of variation with the tempo throughout, this seems to keep a more consistent pace throughout
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I do like lethargic Camp Cope -- West Side Story is incredible -- but I don't think much interesting is happening musically in those sections.
imo neither Anna or Sagan are "lethargic" songs because of the huge highs they hit. hence i think Opener to Sagan is a pretty damn great run.
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Album Rating: 3.0
Probably gonna be the best hop along album of 2018
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wut noooooooooo
why r people so pessimistic about the prospect of new hop along? were the pre release tracks bad (i havent listened)?
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Album Rating: 3.0
They've had it too good for too long, damn it! I didn't think the new tracks were great, but they'll probably grow in context with the album.
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Album Rating: 3.5
Lethargic mightn't have been the write word for it -- none of the recordings here are ever quite tired (except the closer, for good reason) because the bass is so driving and melodic, and most of the songs have some kind of vocal climax, but there's still that downtrodden, resigned tone at the core of most of them I think. Which I think is an interesting formula: express weaknesses/insecurities (at once endearing and relatable); demonstrate a strength in fighting/overcoming adversity; glean some sort of message from the experience, manifest them in bold, assertive claims. It's charming and works for the most part. But I think Animal & Real and UFO Lighter pull it off with far more tact than the rest of the album. Perhaps also The Omen, which attempts something more subtle and melody-driven with the infusion of bass and lead guitar. This song (and the whole band setting, I think) exposes a major flaw in Georgia's songwriting, though: How to Socialise through to Sagan-Indian to me sound like different variations of the same song, whether that strumming pattern is sped up or slowed down, and no matter what order the instruments are introduced.
A little disappointed, but I was perhaps never the band's audience.
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there's still that downtrodden, resigned tone at the core of most of them I think.
i see what you mean but i think "anna" and "sagan/indiana" are different from the more obviously "downtrodden"-sounding songs like say "face of god" as i can really hear a momentum behind the former two despite their sombre, melancholy instrumental; theres a power comparable to the band's most energetic tracks built into them altho on the surface they might sound quite soft.
How to Socialise through to Sagan-Indian to me sound like different variations of the same song, whether that strumming pattern is sped up or slowed down, and no matter what order the instruments are introduced.
i dont hear this at all. imo theres sufficient dissimilarity between the songs based on their variations in groove and the different structures employed alone. i mean there is an obvious resemblance between "anna" and "sagan/indiana", as well as imo a clear distinctness between them, but i think both their similarity and difference are actually used together in a brilliant way. the immediate following of "anna" with what sounds like a similar but more powerful song gives me the impression of continuation from one to the next, like all the energy built up in "anna" doesnt just disappear, but continues to build towards the end of "sagan/indiana". and "sagan/indiana" doesnt feel like a mere repetition of the song preceding it because of its distinct characteristics--a less lumbering rhythmic feel with more forward momentum to it as a result of accents on every crochet rather than every third quaver like in "anna", the more dynamic chorus which actually begins with a descending melodic line while the chorus of "anna" is much steadier, thomo's periodic build towards tension release with a quick round of snare hits, georgia's less legato delivery which gives the impression of shorter musical phrases unlike in "anna"--so to my ears the continuation isnt hindered by a feeling of deja vu; its a smooth build towards a giant climax at the end of "sagan". clearly, i think "anna" into "sagan" is brilliant; the kind of shit you see in a 5/5 album.
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Album Rating: 2.0
This was really, really boring on the first two listens. Probably won't come back to this one.
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Album Rating: 3.5
I agree with ya blush, it sounds like a variation on the same chord pattern. maybe repeated listens will end up driving me a lil crazy but for now I did still enjoy it quite a bit and I'm able to overlook the blatant similarities
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if you're going to live by the sword you're gonna... uhh... something about swords, but the bandying about of cis is like a tokenistic nod to Trans Rights (something insanely important and good) without attempting to grapple with the Trans Experience... it is really hard not to read this as virtue signalling from atop Mt. Sancitmony where white women can do no wrong and can automatically empathise with more marginalized groups based on a shared otherness that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Gender Dysphoria Blues this is not.
the omen is one hell of a tune, and i'm impressed by the dovetailing guitar-bass interplay, and I quite like the way they manage to sounds listless despite propulsion being evident on closer listeners, but -- and this is my problem with a lot of music, especially electroacoustic -- i don't like being lectured to in an academic, precious way about things that seem to me powerfully obvious. bring on being confronted -- Perfect Pussy and No Trend are two band that spring to mind that do that well -- but if the band is positioning themselves as better than you, more woke than you, and you should listen or else, naturally people are going to orient themselves in opposition. it's condescension vs. direct, brutal honesty; this album seems to fall on the wrong side.
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Album Rating: 3.5
are all contribs leaving their review worthy blurbs here for this album? wines why u always gotta be so eloquent af. well said my man, I find myself agreeing with that a lot, but I admittedly am very slow when it comes to giving lyrics an ~academic~ listen right away. rating music is hard sometimes amirite
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Album Rating: 3.5
agreed, hard. condescension isn't something that's been brought up here but it plays a big part in the backlash.
"it is really hard not to read this as virtue signalling from atop Mt. Sanctimony" - also this sums up how I kinda feel very well
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Album Rating: 3.5
it's really so interesting watching the initial responses to this album, and I think the reason why they are so divisive is because the lyrics on here are incredibly and aggressively defensive / condescending.
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agreed, and i'm hard. i like these guys a bit. i'm not head-over-heels for the whole "Georgia Maq (and Friends!)" approach i think these guys take and would like them to explore some dynamics but i also think the starkness is a facet of Camp Cope's music for a reason. moreover: all men are pigs
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Album Rating: 3.5
i wonder how much of this is aimed @smith street singer, im v oblivious to the drama based lyrics at times
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Album Rating: 3.5
First track definitely, "treat women like queens until they disagree" is a direct reference to a Smith St song Sigourney Weaver. However from what I've read it sounds like the Face of God is not about Wil as it occurred after their breakup
UFO lighter surely refers to him and ties in to the "ride those coattails" lyrics in The Opener:
"Now he sits alone in his one bedroom apartment|
Tells himself he's happy and he made the right decisions
And he expected that I was gonna fail and run back
Well fuck that"
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first half of the opener definitely is. i love it. i've almost finished this and i'm digging it a lot more than i thought i would. UFO Lighter's bassline? yes thanks kelly please keep doing the thing
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Thought it was a reference to “if she breathes...” tbh
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internecine feuding between bands from Melbourne is the only platform for revolution and structural overhaul.
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