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theBoneyKing
September 24th 2016


24512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Agreed, this is very very good but lacks any really amazing songs like Bunker Buster or Death.

altertide0
September 24th 2016


3026 Comments


best songs are probably "Sense" and "Forbidden"

theBoneyKing
September 24th 2016


24512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Why am I not surprised that those are your two favorites?

Chortles
September 24th 2016


21494 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

memory though

theTourist
September 26th 2016


132 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

This isn't as immediately striking as their other s/t album, or frankly as good, but "Fever" and "Memory" are superb and I always enjoy the band's (and Women's) sound.

theBoneyKing
September 26th 2016


24512 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

The sound is definitely the major draw here.

magicuba
September 27th 2016


1447 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

bump

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 27th 2016


47727 Comments


"The sound is definitely the major draw here."

does the same not apply to, y'know, every album ever made?

iloveyouall
September 27th 2016


6312 Comments


no, see: ~conscious~ hip-hop
tbh

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 27th 2016


47727 Comments


I prefer my rap delivered from a coma, agreed

DoofusWainwright
September 27th 2016


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

By 'the sound' I guess we're talking about the production/aesthetic/style so no, it's not the only major factor



My usual argument between something being described as 'sounding great' as opposed to just being 'great'.



The raw demos to certain classic albums would have been lacking in the 'sound' department and yet the genius would most likely still be there, they would still 'be great' even if sound wise you could tell they could be improved on.



And other albums 'sound great' but something is lacking...these are usually the albums you describe as 'I should like this', but the magic ain't there and you can't force it.



Like this album for me. From my rating you can see that the distinction between 'sounding great' and 'being great' is pretty huge for me...and it leads to a fair few disagreements here lol

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 27th 2016


47727 Comments


but see he wasn't talking about the production/aesthetic/style at all in the conversation they were talking about the actual songs/genre

but don't think too much into it it was a shitpost on my part

DoofusWainwright
September 27th 2016


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Row I've thought way too much into it xD



I'd say the style covers the type of songs/song writing plus singing style and even the type of lyrics if they're slightly genre typical - this ticks those boxes too



This album just doesn't tick any of the boxes relating to true greatness for me

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 27th 2016


47727 Comments


wouldn't expect any less. check Gang of Youths first one you melon

DoofusWainwright
September 27th 2016


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It's on my list, they sound the real deal

DoofusWainwright
September 27th 2016


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I guess do you judge a film on just the sound, script and visuals or do you judge it on how it left you feeling, how much you went away and thought about it, how it fits in within the history of film and all you've seen, how successfully it transmitted a message or created another world...

You are judging 'the film' not the medium of film.



Music is similar and that's the equivalent stuff I guess sits outside of the nuts and bolts of sound a bit - it's set into motion by the medium of sound of course but it's something else. If an artist gets it right this is where true greatness lies.

Rowan5215
Staff Reviewer
September 27th 2016


47727 Comments


But a film can't give you feeling or a message unless it has sound, a script and visuals so you should be judging both???

DoofusWainwright
September 27th 2016


19991 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

You are judging both.



I just have to defend a lot of ratings here where I agree something sounds excellent but it doesn't connect or transmit anything deep or lasting for me, that is where I'm coming from I guess



I'm a believer that music critique is 99.999999% subjective and the 'sound' argument tends to be held up as evidence by the 'music ratings should be objective' crew

JamieCTA
September 27th 2016


281 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Despite the fact I found them incredibly boring live opening for Explosions in the Sky, I actually really enjoy this album - maybe more so than Viet Cong.

Chortles
September 27th 2016


21494 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

these guys are sick live dude



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