Album Rating: 3.0

The themes on this album are pretty different. People complaining about Defeater repeating themselves lyrically aren't REALLY listening to the words on this record.



This band have always used their over arching story as a device to explore topics like sibling rivalry, love, war, race, religion, etc. Defeater do the same thing every other band do they just attach it to the characters in their universe.

letters home is miles better but k

Album Rating: 4.0

Personally liking this album. Its a step up from Letters Home I feel. Repetitive at times as people say but still enjoyable. Really digging Borrowed & Blue's guitar.

No matter what you think about their lyrics they are stuck in the ww2 time period and it would be nice to hear them move on.

Album Rating: 3.0

That's true! I would also prefer that Defeater create a create a new narrative. They nailed the new concepts on Travels and Lost Ground.



At the same time, I don't mind them sticking to their universe. I believe they are still keeping things interesting and different enough within the confines that they've established for themselves.

Album Rating: 4.0

Letters Home never really clicked with me (besides "Bastards"), but I don't think this is as bad an album as you're painting. "Unanswered" is a very good song, at least in my humble opinion, and I also don't think your criticisms of the album are very fair; for example, you use the fact that the opening guitar is so similar to the end of Letters Home as indicative of laziness, where as I see it as auditory/narrative consistency. You describe the samey sound of much of Abandoned, but "Borrowed & Blue" sounds like a complete 180 from anything else Defeater has done. Additionally, Defeater is a concept band. All of their albums will contain similar lyrical themes and intertwining characters and plotlines. To complain about that would be to complain about "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)" sounding exactly the same or Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick II being the same old territory as the first Thick as a Brick. I feel like you do perhaps have some valid critiques here, but a lot of the things you see as Defeater's flaws, I see as strengths.

Album Rating: 4.0

Did you guys hear the 2 bonus tracks? One is all clean singing, alternative rock-ish. While the other is acoustic. Honestly 2 of the better songs on this album and they are only on the deluxe lol.

Album Rating: 2.5

if those songs are similar to the dear father ones then i don't really care

Album Rating: 2.5

lol it sounds like they are trying to rip off envy pretty hard in the closer

Album Rating: 4.0

On the first listen, this was in fact pretty good. Also the acoustic songs on ED,SN were really damn good, tbh

Album Rating: 3.0

I really did like the acoustic songs on EDSN too. Excited to hear the new one.

These guys should have Abandoned the album and walked into the sea.

Album Rating: 2.0

Sigh this just sucks. What a shame.

Album Rating: 3.0

Man, I really do not like the production. It sounds exactly the same as Letters Home; the drum parts themselves are impressive but the mix just bothers me. The album starting and ending with the same line of lyrics has gotten old too. Bums me out because their early stuff is excellent...

Album Rating: 3.5

This is on par with Letters Home if not just a bit better. Contrition is one of their best openers, I love the guitar that echoes throughout and the track just builds and builds.





Letters Home had Bled Out though, which is one of the greatest Defeater songs ever, so I'm still not sure wether or not this album is really better.

It is on par with letters home which was terrible lol.

But oh well, I'll stick with travels, lost ground, and Blacklisted albums

Album Rating: 4.0

I dig this

Album Rating: 2.0

what happened to this band? this is so fucking lifeless

Album Rating: 3.0

gg defeater

Might be a grower