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Rev
April 6th 2013


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Both change the sound of their genres, so why shouldn't both be labelled as different things?


bringing in influences from other musical styles doesn't create a new genre, it's just a variation on the original musical

style



ie screamo with post rock influence a new genre does not make

Aids
April 6th 2013


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just because he was previously making dubstep that didn't fit in with the average American's perception of the genre does not make it "post"



he's moved into more of an R&B kind of area since venturing away from dubstep, this does not mean he's invented a new genre

mindleviticus
April 6th 2013


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When did I ever say it created something different? It doesn't create it, but it changes it in a way
that it could be labelled as something different. Technical Thrash Metal, for example. Anyways this
got out of hand. I'm just saying that I don't really see why people should be hostile to the idea.
Soon we might be entering the realm of sub-sub-subgenres for all we know!

anarchistfish
April 6th 2013


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What's hostile about criticising a dumb genre tag which gets way too much use? It's such a lazy description anyway, it

doesn't mean anything. Dubstep was a fusion genre in the first place.

Aids
April 6th 2013


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creating a new sub-genre is fine, maybe, but please for fuck's sake let's not call it "post-dubstep." that is such an inaccurate description of his music (of anyone's music) and it just reeks of pretension.



"post" is starting to get way overused. Post-rock makes sense, so does post-punk, but besides that it's pretty much pointless. Post-hardcore kind of makes sense, but it's still a dumb tag, and post-metal is the worst named sub-genre in recent memory (unless this one sticks).

Rev
April 6th 2013


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except the worst recent genre tag is blackgaze

Aids
April 6th 2013


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remember when people started using "the wave" as a genre tag?



*shudders*



#nvrfrgt

mindleviticus
April 6th 2013


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that is such an inaccurate description of his music (of anyone's music) and it just reeks of pretension.

I already said that, and besides I don't even call it that. I just don't see the big deal with it and it makes sense just like all the others. Stupid or not.

anarchistfish
April 6th 2013


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black gays

Rev
April 6th 2013


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those were dark days, dude



and tbh "technical" is just as bad of a genre prefix as "post" is

Aids
April 6th 2013


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but it doesn't make sense at all that's my point

Trebor.
Emeritus
April 6th 2013


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Technical death metal makes sense to me

Tyrael
April 6th 2013


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'except the worst recent genre tag is blackgaze'



What else would you propose we call it? Do you consider 'post black metal' to be a better term for bands mixing shoegaze and black metal?

Maniac!
April 6th 2013


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woah

anarchistfish
April 6th 2013


30550 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Blackgaze makes sense as a fusion genre name



Chillstep, future garage, drumstep, all those kinds of sub genre tags related to garage and dubstep are just awful

mindleviticus
April 6th 2013


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Well then how does post rock make sense? A genre that includes rhythms and textures not associated with rock is what it's characterized as. I don't understand how that one can make sense and not post-dubstep. We could call post rock ambient rock or instrumental soft rock or any of the styles that is considered as post-rock, so why do we call it post-rock? Why do we call anything "post"? Stupid or not, it came "after" rock for that matter just like post dubstep came after dubstep. It just added ambient and R&B/soul to it as well. I don't understand.

anarchistfish
April 6th 2013


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Album Rating: 3.5

Post rock is a completely different take on rock. It takes rock and effectively goes against it's definition.



"post dubstep" doesn't mean anything anyway but just adding other genres doesn't change the dubstep aspect. Also,

there's been ambient aspects to dubstep for years.

Rev
April 6th 2013


9882 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

mindie I feel like you're way more heated about this than everyone else



it's not really worth arguing anymore at this point, since it's all a basis of opinion anyway and no one can seem to agree

What else would you propose we call it? Do you consider 'post black metal' to be a better term for bands mixing shoegaze and black metal?
i'm just saying the term and the genre are both dumb

mindleviticus
April 6th 2013


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I'm not heated, I'm really interested actually

Sleaper
April 6th 2013


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sigh.... genre naming argument #30000



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