Album Rating: 2.0

[quote=fanboy]So you're attacking my reviews because of a comment he made? Yeah, I know him in real life, but it doesnt alter the fact he's a fan of the band too.[/quote]



I'm not attacking your review and neither is Zesty. We're commenting on the band. I know you got him to come to the site to comment on your reviews. It's just funny how it looks like he's jumping to his buddy's aid.



In other news, I negged the review. I found it well written but ultimately shallow and misguided in it's intepretation of the album.

Album Rating: 2.5

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes] So you're attacking my reviews because of a comment he made? [/QUOTE]



But when did I say that?



[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes] His opinion doesnt matter because he's just saying "Oh, It's overrated". Wow, a lot of thought thrown into that one. [/QUOTE]



hmmmm....



[QUOTE=you, few posts up] Once again I'd like to announce that your opinion isnt important [/QUOTE]



And I didn't neg your review. It's definately reeks of fanboyistic propaganda, but at least its well written.

Album Rating: 4.0

Oh because that's real mature. What's immature about the interpretation of the album? Actually, how exactly can you immaturely interpret an album open to interpretation? Jesus, I guess I'll go review some mediocre Hot Cross cd and verbally blow their cocks for having three singers, because we all know how mature that is.



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Album Rating: 4.0

[quote=xHardxCorexMoshxScenexw00t]I'm not attacking your review and neither is Zesty. We're commenting on the band. I know you got him to come to the site to comment on your reviews. It's just funny how it looks like he's jumping to his buddy's aid.[/quote]



Not attacking my review, yet you just stated you negged it because of my 'immature interpretations'. He's not jumping to MY defense, he's defending the review because we agree on it. He is a fan of the band which you're immaturely attacking, he's not defending me.

Album Rating: 2.0

[quote=florgan]Frankly, bro[/quote]



Of course "contrived" can fit. It's construction is superficial and cliché.



By citing a joke name the singer has for himself he obviously isn't "pretentious." If you've read their band bio on purevolume you must know that when it comes to their music, they are pretty pompous. I understand and agree with their fervour, though I feel their execution of it is out of their grasp and pretentious.



I don't care about the political position of NOFX or the apolitical commentary of the other bands I cited like Lagwagon and NUFAN. All I care about is the emotional reaction they elicit. You have pigheadedly connected emotional reaction only to lyrical content. My emotional reaction to those bands and that genre has everything to do with the way the bands blends tightness with catchiness and a wonderful "sense of the moment."

Album Rating: 2.5

[QUOTE=Florgan] It's ridiculous to call a freshman release "contrived", the adjective just doesn't fit. [/QUOTE]



Why not?



[QUOTE=Florgan] Kezia ventured into new territory for PTH, artistic areas that prior were only admired by the band. Drawing from a myriad of classical and modern influences, not mere variations of metal -- from Les Mis, to Katherine Mansfeild and Yukio Mishima, to Necrophagist and The Red Chord. (You repeatedly draw similarities to BTBAM; admittedly, the band does draw an influence, but is more adjacent than parallel.) [/QUOTE]



that's great, but it doesn't explain why someone can't decide that they don't like it.



[QUOTE=Florgan] But how can songs about the 'punk rawk' show, getting smashed, and skateboarding be emotional? [/QUOTE]



umm, because they reflect common events in the listener, thus emphasizing similar emotions?

Album Rating: 2.0

C&C, you're like a blind man saying, "I'll believe it when I see it."

Album Rating: 4.0

Yet you're the one believing a bio on purevolume which is written by their record label. Smooth...



First you say they take themselves seriously, then they're immature because of the singers nickname. First you're not attacking my review, then my interpretations are immature. Wonder why I said your opinion doesnt matter? It's because it's swaying faster than the fad you live for.

Album Rating: 2.5

[QUOTE=DFelon] I am a mod. Ha. [/QUOTE]



Good.

Album Rating: 4.0

Because we all know being a mod is totally relevent.

Again, you haven't butressed the point: for the band it is neither constructed nor cliche, being their first release; if their sohpmore is released as Kezia II, then your argument is sound.
The band's bio, whereever you look, was written by their overbearing label Vagrant (or as PTH call it, "Flagrant".)
I'm not even considering their political position, but that they're such diletantes. If you're not a poitical band, don't flex your underdeveloped political mind; it's just arrogant.
And furthermore, Protest resent everything scene-related, right down to their xMOshx fans.

Album Rating: 2.0

[quote=dude]First you say they take themselves seriously, then they're immature because of the singers nickname. First you're not attacking my review, then my interpretations are immature. Wonder why I said your opinion doesnt matter? It's because it's swaying faster than the fad you live for.[/quote]



They take themselves seriously. I never called them immature though that word is most likely applicable. The singer's nickname is funny. I was actually criticizing Florgan for treating one random example as if it negated and invalidated my whole entire argument.



I'm not attacking your review in these comments and this argument. You asked who negged your review. I said me and then offered an explanation. That's me being fair you ass.



As a last funny note on why you're wrong, you asserted my opinion didn't matter before I made any of the comments you're using as evidence for why you initially claimed my opinion didn't matter. That's a logical fallacy boy.

Album Rating: 2.0

for the band it is neither constructed nor cliche, being their first release; if their sohpmore is released as Kezia II, then your argument is sound.

Album Rating: 2.0

Out of curiosity, where and in what context does the Mishima reference appear.

Album Rating: 4.0

It's not a fallacy because at first you backed your opinion up with absolutely nothing, and when you did it was all contradictory.



Firstly, how exactly can you immaturely interpret an album cryptically written? The album, as I said, is waiting to be decrypted. What I did to interpret it was combine both the musical elements with the lyrics, all of which mean something. Whether it be the mentioning of the Hari-Kiri, which directly relates to the “confessions of a mask” line one track further back, or the paraphrasing of quotes from the bible, mind you with slight changes (I’d rather kill a stupid flower, and spread it seeds around), all of my interpretations are perfectly legitimate. What exactly is immature about strategically going about decoding the lyrics, might I ask?

Album Rating: 2.0

I'm going to do some work and go to bed. I'll deal with this argument at a later date. For now take your mind of it all with some simplistic scene fad lame lyrics.



http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Lend-Me-Your-Brain-I'm-Building-An-Idiot-lyrics-Hot-Cross/538FCD22A5EE118948256DD8001D321B

It's no logical fallacy, fool. I'm blazing your flawed posts, irrelevant to the review itself.
You're assesing PtH as contrived against a genre of bands they don't respect, much less model.
They explicitly reference Confessions of a Mask, and much of nattrative structure and theme was influenced by The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea.

Album Rating: 2.5

[QUOTE=Florgan] Again, you haven't butressed the point: for the band it is neither constructed nor cliche, being their first release [/QUOTE]



it can still be cliched if they borrow ideas and style from other bands. If anything the majority of band's debuts are the most cliched of their catalogues as they haven't found their own sound.

If you're not a poitical band, don't flex your underdeveloped political mind; it's just arrogant.

Album Rating: 4.0

Whatever. The Mishima references are throughout the album, particularily the correlation between the mention of "Confessions of a Mask" and the Hari-Kiri suicide, which of course Mishima performed. He's not the only one though, much of the story feeds of (or in your words copies, becase apparently you consider them to be one in the same) Doestoevsky's Grand Inquisitor.

Album Rating: 2.0

Interesting. Mishima didn't do hari kiri though. He did seppuku, which is similar but different.