pretty sure I do but maybe I don't


what'm I missin'?

your main complaint is how disjointed it is and you wanted orchestration

when approaching avant garde music, all expectations must be set aside, otherwise, how can anything
"new" be experienced if the listener is focused on assimilating and interpreting the music in relation
to prior experience?

sounds that are "coherent" or "underdeveloped" are labeled as such based on prior listening
experiences with music. the only way "in" to a clean interpretation of this kind of music is repeated
exposure, so that one can hear the order that arises from chaos, the patterns in the randomness.

to be honest I tried to entirely set this aside from his other work... I knew comparing the two wouldn't be fair. it's not that I didn't like this because it wasn't as orchestrated as his post-rock stuff, it's just that it didn't strike me as orchestrated enough in general. Like there's some awesome moments here that actually feel deliberate (I guess you would say when the patterns in randomness became more apparent?), those are the ones that hit me, rather than the ton of other stuffs.

Don't know if that validates what I was trying to say at all, but do you know where I'm coming from, even if I'm "wrong," haha?

You're talking out of your ass, kitsch. People can listen to and interpret avant garde music any way they want.

eric, youre not wrong, haha, no one is wrong
considerphlebas, yes they can

all i was doing was explaining the way i interpret it and i get more enjoyment out of this record
than a lot of people

"you dont get it"
is being facetious on the internet

with randomness, there is nothing to get

but if you arent expecting any structure or orchestration, then you are not let down when you do not
get it, correct?

expectations cloud pure experience.

eh, it's not that I wasn't expecting any at all, I just tried not to expect as much as say, past WEG.

and don't worry man I don't take you too seriously haha

and i see why people dont like this/are lukewarm about it

You can never detach yourself from expectation. A person's taste, preference and indeed their entire psychology is built on experience and cannot be anything else. Just because you don't expect to hear exactly what has come before doesn't mean you are free to have pure experiences. Music has to stay within some extremely loose boundaries otherwise all sound could and would be music.

awesome S & S soundoff Lewis

Any sound can be made into music, but if all sound was always music it would be meaningless. Bands wouldn't exist because people would be rocking out to the sound of diarrhea spraying out of their anus and flies buzzing and pages turning etc, etc, etc.

I agree with everyone

You must agree with me only. Of course, that's just my opinion, in the form of a command.

"Any sound can be made into music, but if all sound was always music it would be meaningless. Bands wouldn't exist because people would be rocking out to the sound of diarrhea spraying out of their anus and flies buzzing and pages turning etc, etc, etc."

you should make an ep of those noises i will review it a 5

Album Rating: 5.0

my main problem with this review, outside of mistakes such as calling the album 'seven sisters' in one paragraph, is that it is built on the expectation it would sound like a collaboration or his most relaxed album, and an apparent disappointment with that. if you listen through his back catalogue there is a lot of glitchy, cut and paste style stuff.



the way you describe it also makes it sound messy and unrefined, whilst it is actually meticolously composed if you delve through the layers (well, if you ignore the penultimate track anyway)

I'll do a split with Bitchfork

thanks for reading Oneida, and apart from my idiot 'Seven Sisters' thing (ugh, thanks for pointing that out) I think you misinterpreted me, maybe?

I tried to point out early that, in my analysis of the album, I would be doing my best to separate my preconceptions about the artist- It feels ridiculous drawing comparisons between the past and present for the Japanese solo artist, so instead it would be a more reasonable idea to ditch expectations altogether and enjoy Seven Idiots for what it is. Doing so ENTIRELY would have been utterly impossible, but my critique of the album certainly tried to ignore his past work and concentrate on this.

the way you describe it also makes it sound messy and unrefined,

whilst it is actually meticolously composed if you delve through the layers

Great review, megapos'd.

thanks zion, much appreciated

This sounds awesome.

this definitely wasn't was I was expecting