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How the fuck is this even remotely black metal?

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How the hell is it not? Like are you being serious?

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And here's a reasoning: atmospheric, cold sounding tremolo riffs, chord progressions, vocal style. I'll give it to you it's not pure raw black metal with blasts everywhere.

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Although bm generally has screaming, but the cleans on this are very much the style a lot of black metal bands adopt anymoar.~

By your definition, many ambient groups could be considered black metal. I feel you're almost playing the devil here. Your argument seems so faulty its ridiculous. Here's why:

I was under the impression that the status quo of vox in bm was the high-pitched rasp/shriek. Here, the vocals are always croons and are akin to post-rock and My Bloody Valentine-esque shoegaze. Part of my reasoning for classifying it as an ethereal shoegaze is one of the reasons you call it black metal.

Atmosphere is a key component of several genres of music. Drone and ambient music can easily show proof of this. Yes, bands like Khlyst use this element of music to the extreme. Yes, Khlyst is metal. However, the thing is, atmosphere is not exclusively honed by black metal bands or metal bands in general.

"Cold" tremolo riffs are used in almost any form of extreme metal, and yes, some forms of shoegaze. So saying that "cold" riffs are exclusive to black metal is an absurd claim. Several of the most morose songs on the planet are based around "cold" riffs. Several of these songs are also not a part of the metal genre or any of the subgenres affiliated with it. Think of dark folk for example.

Chord progressions are used as a musical technique in almost every genre period. Saying that having a chord progression makes you a black metal band makes anything from Brand New to Godspeed You! Black Emperor a black metal band.

Basically you're arguing that utilizing any metal technique can make your band black metal. This is obviously false. This is a shoegaze-based effort that utilizes soft vocal stylings rather than shrieks. Even though tremolo riffs are present, they are used in a way that is definitely NOT akin to black metal. This record has very few ties to metal in the first place, if any at all.

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I'm not saying that "utilizing any metal technique can make your band black metal," I'm saying that playing an atmospheric substyle of black metal that's slightly influenced by shoegaze makes a band black metal.



Learn to read.

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Also try harder, you seem really smart and cool dude.

Learn to tell the difference between shoegaze and black metal.

Omg Ur Liek So Educattexc@! I Wuish I could be as smrty as U!!2.

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Learn to tell the difference between shoegaze and black metal.

Ironic for you.

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ooooooooo got me good



is that craig owens in ur avatar zomygawsh

No, that's the guy from love like... electrocution.
But I'd love to have a guy from a band I hate as someone in my avatar.

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Jokes dummy, Love Like... Electrocution is my favoritest band everrrrr. n.n

they were amazing

R.I.P. LL...E

What a stupid thread. "Black metal" is an offshoot from metal is it not???? Sure, it has come to include some post-rock elements, but the term metal cannot encompass the aggressive music that most people usually refer to as metal AND THIS.
If you're thinking "why not?", this is because our concept of genres exist in order to define what type of music we are listening to. Shoegaze is obviously an offshoot of the genre called post-rock, and this music clearly fits better within the subset of post-rock rather than metal.
Secondly this whole discussion of you trying to fit a piece of music into a very debatable genre is just sad. Get a life.

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This is some great stuff here. 3.5-4.0

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I need to listen to this again to see if I like it any more. Might give it a listen today.