Converge Petitioning the Empty Sky
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fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I agree!



even though the featured review for the record explains just as much as mine albeit repeating "technical riffing" a lot and has no negs because it's a 4/5, I agree!

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
October 22nd 2009


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I think people are expecting a little bit too much out of reviews on Sputnikmusic these days. What Dan says is true, had this been a higher rating such as a 4 or 4.5 then there would likely be little to no negs.

StreetlightRock
October 22nd 2009


4019 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Pointing out the faults of others (real or imagined) doesn't excuse a badly written review.



And call me crazy but expecting a review on a review site doesn't strike me as expecting too much.

fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

The trouble with the Maples (and they're quite convinced they're right)

They say the Oaks are just too lofty

And they grab up all the light

But the Oaks can't help their feelings

If they like the way they're made

And they wonder why the Maples

Can't be happy in their shade

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
October 22nd 2009


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

You said yourself it's not lacking proper grammar, just attention to detail. My point was that if someone thoroughly enjoys something and someone has a divergent opinion of it then they are more likely to nitpick as much as possible. He stated that it sounds Juvenile and made comment on the vocals. I'm pretty sure most people on Sputnikmusic know what Converge sound like. It does seem a bit vague, but definitely not worthy of a neg, and grammatically it is well written.

StreetlightRock
October 22nd 2009


4019 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

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Meet word salad.



It's not just lacking attention to detail, the review is lacking review.

fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

I was just posting the lyrics cuz I was listening to it lol



gyro pretty much said what was on my mind

the review is lacking review.
then read one of the other 4

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
October 22nd 2009


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Context... mmmmmm

StreetlightRock
October 22nd 2009


4019 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

How's this for context: A review site, where reviews are written. You kids need to stop appealing to 'but they did it too!' and 'you're picking on me' and actually address the fact that this is a terribly written review, in the sense of saying nearly nothing about the music. Or, you can go ahead and continue pointing out things that have nothing to do with the writing itself. I 'get' your point gyro, it's just so happens to be a useless one.

fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

way to ignore everything just mentioned

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
October 22nd 2009


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Explaining the sound of Converge is every bit as redundant as explaining the sound of The Beatles. I'm willing to bet 90% of users on this site have heard Converge. In my opinion you are being extremely nit picky, but I'd rather not fight about this.

Wizard
October 22nd 2009


20630 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Finally, someone with some balls. Even though I'm squirting all over the new Converge album, this doesn't excuse the band from the travesty that they once were.



As anyone who’s heard this before, The Saddest Day is one of Converge’s best songs. It follows no pattern, incorporates a few math-metal sections, and is ridiculously unrefined in terms of performance (possibly due to the high-treble production), but it doesn’t hurt it in any way aside from the poor clean vocals.



Bingo. Sums up the whole album actually.



It's not just lacking attention to detail, the review is lacking review.



I don't know, their really isn't much to this album tbqh. I don't know, opinions are a bitch regardless how much detail you put into them.

StreetlightRock
October 22nd 2009


4019 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Or, you can go ahead and continue pointing out things that have nothing to do with the writing itself.


fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

you just make me smile

Wizard
October 22nd 2009


20630 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

The writing is fine. He clearly explains why he doesn't like it. I mean, if I don't enjoy something, I tend to not write so much about because, well, it's just not worth the effort to go into minute details about everything. Broad strokes are just as good nit picking.

Crysis
Emeritus
October 22nd 2009


17652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Wizard's dropping the 1, guess this really sucks. Haven't heard it.

fireaboveicebelow
October 22nd 2009


6835 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

you reviewed the new converge so you should check this out and see what you think

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
October 22nd 2009


38348 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

It has relevance to the sound; juvenile, math metal sections, unrefined performance, high treble production, poor clean vocals.



You said that it was well written and the problem is that the reviewer doesn't explain the sound well enough, and my point of explaining the sound being redundant is valid.

Crysis
Emeritus
October 22nd 2009


17652 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

you reviewed the new converge so you should check this out and see what you think




Will do, we'll see how this goes.

Wizard
October 22nd 2009


20630 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Wizard's dropping the 1, guess this really sucks. Haven't heard it.



Don't take it from me, give it a chance. I just find this to be so unfocused and the production makes this a stinker. They are better off having the beefier production of latter albums.



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