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ToWhatEnd
January 21st 2009


3173 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I'm with you on your last comment Davey. I hardly listen to any punk at all anymore and struggle finding bands similar to Rise Against for similar reasons. I think the record is solid. Have it a 4 but it was at a 3.5 for a bit. Don't ever see it getting past the 4 it's at since this isn't as good as either of their last three records. With that being said I still think a lot of people are just overlooking this and not really giving it the time of day.

OllieS
January 21st 2009


2280 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Disagreed but the review was really well written :thumb:

ToWhatEnd
January 21st 2009


3173 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

Forgot one thing. Am I the only person who thinks the bridge on From Heads Unworthy is fantastic? Right when things get soft and Tim sings "I'm not after fame and fortune, I'm after you." That part and the crescendo into the final chorus is definitely one of my favorite moments of the record.

Spamue1G
January 21st 2009


1291 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

This is halfway between a 4 and a 3.5 for me. I'm seeing these guys live in March, and I'm kinda hoping they don't play too much stuff from this (although I like it, Siren Song and Revolutions were better. I think this is about on level with The Sufferer and the Witness, it just lacks a song as good as Prayer Of The Refugee.

Needless to say, great review, you've got me excited for your 100th!

withintention
January 21st 2009


297 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

withinintention, I actually believe that Rise Against simply performing a variation on the same theme is a valid argument. I was going to mention it in the review actually, but thought I would keep the review to this album in question. Like someone said in the Sound-Offs, I would look for them to change it up a little more on the next album as there are a lot of similarities in style between this & it's predecessor. BUT I feel that going back 2 albums, there is more than enough differences between this and 'Siren Song'. This is a lot more accessible.


Yeah but for me, this is what keeps the album in the mediocre category. I think it's just the type of band they are, which isn't bad, just not personally gratifying. But you got a point, and well written review nonetheless.



roofi
January 21st 2009


959 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

The Sufferer & The Witness>>>>>>>>>everything else in RA's discography

withintention
January 21st 2009


297 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

Um no way, you're forgetting Revolutions mate.

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
January 21st 2009


22500 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Thanks for the positive feedback on the review Ollie. In a sense, it's appreciated even more when you disagree so strongly with the album rating.

Mike, I have no issue at all with a 4 rating. I only just sneaked it in for a 4.5 & that's probably due to bias. I am glad you agree it's difficult to compare them to anyone. As for 'From Heads Unworthy', that is exactly the kind of song which grows on you, especially due to the climax you speak of. That track did very little for me on first listen. I mean, I knew it was good but it blended in with many of the other tracks moreso than now when I've given the album heaps of listens. In fact, I'd almost say that it and 'Hairline Fracture' are the 2 tracks that have grown on me the most. The latter was always going to seem plain initially since it is placed after 'Savior'.

I'll be there with you to see them live in March Spamue!. I do expect them to play a good mix of songs from all of their albums. As much as I like this, I don't think it's as good as 'Sufferer'. Good to hear I have you excited for my 100th. However, you're a bit soft not taking a guess at what it is. Then again, hold off for some clues that I will begin giving later today.

I agree with Roofi on 'Sufferer' being their best. Of course, that doesn't mean their other albums can't be really good also.

Fugue
January 21st 2009


7371 Comments


Is the first clue that it isn't Hysteria?

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
January 21st 2009


22500 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

It would be funnier if the first clue was: It is 'Hysteria'!

Ok, it might just be time for my first clue (as vague as it is):

CLUE 1: The following is a line from review #100: "In truth, there is hardly a flaw on '???'. Sure, it is a touch front-loaded with most of the highlight tracks coming prior to track 7, but that does not mean that the latter half offers little."

Douchebag
January 21st 2009


3626 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Hmm. Well it COULD be Hysteria, but after track 7 there is still some ace stuff, like Hysteria and Excitable.



Personally I think the first half or so of Hysteria is best but stilll...I'm scared now!

Spamue1G
January 21st 2009


1291 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I was planning to wait until I knew what it was and then say that 'I knew it all along!'.

Problem is, there's just so much it could be, but if you're giving clues I might take a guess. I'll keep it to myself though, probably :P

Fugue
January 21st 2009


7371 Comments


Oh oh pointless guessing time

These are all albums it won't be, but based on what you have said so far could be:

Silent Alarm: if it is STFU "The Pioneers" (track 8) is the best track on it.
Room On Fire: fits what you said much better, only dodgy tracks are at the end.
Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots: Could be if you have something against the frankly brilliant "Do You Realize"

or you could go for something totally radical like:

Metropolis Part 2 Scenes From A Memory: Barring the fact that it is not your sort of review,and it already has some darn good ones already, this fits perfectly with what you have said.


Douchebag
January 21st 2009


3626 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

"Metropolis Part 2 Scenes From A Memory"





I've been listening to that lately, It's the most complex album I ever heard.

Fugue
January 21st 2009


7371 Comments


I've been listening to that lately, It's the most complex album I ever heard.


Yeah it's very technical, the most common critiscism is that it is too complex for its own good.

It is also one of my favorite albums in the history of ever. And the saddest thing is that due to a complex chain of events I am not currently in possesion of either my Metropolis CD or mp3 files of the album...sad Ross :-(.

Douchebag
January 21st 2009


3626 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

lol. Maybe you can explain the end to me? I mean what's with the weird sounds and footsteps at the end?

Fugue
January 21st 2009


7371 Comments


If your having trouble understanding the concept go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenes_from_a_Memory
it is where i went first time I heard it, and it is pretty in depth.

Apparently you need the live DVD to understand completely what happens at the end, as in the album version it is very unclear. I think the point is that the whole album is a cycle (like Floyd did with the wall), as Nicholas is (apparently) dead; killed by that blasted hypnotist (who is the reincarnation of Ed), therefore completing the cycle ie. the spirit of Ed killed the spirit of Victoria, just like the physical Ed killed the physical Victoria 70 years before.

Edit: Yeah that wasn't as clear as I would have liked, and probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense.This Message Edited On 01.21.09This Message Edited On 01.21.09

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
January 22nd 2009


22500 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

Croc, even if there are some good tracks on the latter half of an album, if the first half is clearly better, I would call that front-loaded. I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever that 'Hysteria' is front-loaded. 6 of its 7 singles came from the first half.

Correct Spamue!, it could be anything. Wait for a few more clues. But then I expect you take a stab.

Gee Ross, now you are pulling albums out of your backside. Then again, that could work. I can tell you that it won't be 'Silent Alarm' as I have already rated that (3.5). What's this about Pink Robots? LOL.

Fugue
January 22nd 2009


7371 Comments


Haha, well I figured that as I lost my bet anyway, I may aswell throw about some needless speculation.

Oh and Yoshimi battles the pink robots is a flaming lips album, it is pretty awesome and i'm almost certain you would like it :-)

DaveyBoy
Emeritus
January 22nd 2009


22500 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5 | Sound Off

The music industry wouldn't be what it is without "needless speculation" so you fit right in Ross.

My next clues will help to eliminate at least a few of your speculative choices.



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