Says the guy who thinks Nile is average. Is George Kolias a "shite" drummer too?...

Seriously, Inferno is one of the better drummers in extreme metal. He might not be very original, but he's got the speed & technicality to measure up with the best.This Message Edited On 06.11.07

Album Rating: 2.5

I don't give a shite how fast or "Technical" you can play if what you're playing is boring and derivative. Nile + Behemoth = Boring and Derivative.

You overlook the fact that everything is derived from something else. Sigh, a band you praise, and I'm sure they're worthy of the praise you give them, blends thrash, black metal, psychedelic rock and symphonic elements (I'm guessing from what I've read). Now, what's so original about that? They're just juxtaposing things that haven't been juxtaposed in the past, it's not like they came up with these ideas out of thin air.

I guess if you're into the artsy-fartsy aspect of music then you're inclined to think that way, but it's incredibly short-minded and lacks insight into what it is you're criticizing and comparing it to.

Album Rating: 2.5

Yeah I'm short minded. You've got me. Have fun listening to Nergal try to growl with his balls in his mouth and Nile acting sophisticated because they can use arabian scales.

How many other death metal bands use Arabian scales? That's right, NONE. Way to contradict yourself in saying that it's "boring and derivative" when they incorporate things not normally seen in the genre into their music. Do they act sophisticated? Not really...

And Nergal's vocals aren't very good unless they're layered, and even then...

Bleh, gracing such a juvenile post with a response is...bleh.

Album Rating: 2.5

Take it to the death heads thread. You're not worth arguing with in this review, which is totally unnecessary.

just because they use modes that sound "arabian" doesnt mean they aren't boring and derivative

Album Rating: 4.5

tbh, Melechesh uses arabian/middle eastern scales as well.





Also, has anyone listened more closely to this yet? Does anyone agree with me that there are actual songs hidden just under the extreme tech death surface? Good songs?

To this whole drumming argument I totally agree with cocaine. This drummer along with George Kollias, Inferno and other speed drummers, while very talented, simply arnt exciting. Thats what makes drummers like Sean Reinhert, Gene Hoglan and Ben Koller so damn awesome. Although on a side note I really like Nile and what I've heard from Behemoth.

these guys have waht it takes to be great.. but the frikkin breakdowns... there are too many frikkin breakdowns... very good review... but i have to say Necrophagist are much much better as far as tech death metal goes.. and Muhammed Suicmez is a much better player IMO.

Imagine a guitarist that's seemingly faster and more precise than Muhammed Suicmez

I meet him in 4 days.

With Muhammhad! He's gonna give me the tone and playing abilities of God!



Yes, be green with envy.This Message Edited On 07.02.07

These guys are very cool live. They won me over and I bought their album from the merch stand. I like it alot, despite what I said before. It's really good.

Every song sounds the same...

Meh, I don't think so.

technique-wise ye, they just rearrange it with each song

Theses guys are good. I started listening to them after there EP came out. They may be boring to some of you, but there is just something about then that is like no other band. They put on a really good live show too. They a very political, but i could careless. The drummer is a pimp. And they are a canadian lol

They may be boring to some of you, but there is just something about then that is like no other band. They put on a really good live show too.

Album Rating: 2.5

It's a lot more complex instrumentally than Necrophagist. I guess.



I dont know actually. Still boring and it has less to do with the breakdowns, which arent too bad on this, than it does the monotonous onslaught. This Message Edited On 08.06.07