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Groundking
May 23rd 2023


2436 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'Vast swathes of earth that are undeveloped? Is there a section of the planet that I’m unaware of?

The places that aren’t developed by now will offer next to nothing to humanity over the next couple hundred years. Pretty sure that capitalism would’ve found a way to stretch that lands’ asshole by now if what you were saying had any merit.'

You need to go back to school and touch up on your comprehension, I said underdeveloped not undeveloped, big difference. Burundi is the world poorest country, yet in even the poorest country in the world 12% of the population has access to electricity (some sources have it lower) clearly a place that has access to electricity has had at least some development.

Also 'capitalism' is clearly finding a way to 'stretch that lands' asshole' considering energy production in the country is up 400% since 2005 and access to electricity has grown from 2% in 2000 to what it is today.

Africa (as well as the rest of the global south) in 30 years is going to be unrecognisable compared to what it is today with how much development they're going to have, saying these places will have next to nothing to offer humanity over the next 200 years is clearly nonsense.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.ACCS.ZS?locations=BI&most_recent_value_desc=false

https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/burundi

'Imperialism impoverished its colonies. The same imperialism whose wealth founded western capitalism and runs through many of its corporations and institutions to this day. The history of modernity and economy is closely correlated to that of imperialism and violence. Liberalism is the lie spun to cover for this.'

I've never read so much nonsense in my life. Imperialism didn't impoverish any place, these places were already impoverished before western man arrived. Imperialism didn't found western capitalism, it was western capitalism in the first place that made the west rich facilitating it's imperialism. If this is not the case please explain how the west managed to conquer the world yet no other country did? Also explain how Ethiopia, one of the few countries of the world to have never been conquered and experience imperialism isn't the wealthiest country in Africa if it was imperialism that impoverished the continent? Ethiopia doesn't even come in the top 30 countries in Africa on a per capita basis for wealth.

No, the worlds economic history is correlated with energy production not imperialism and violence is something that's been trending down in the world, yet the world keeps getting richer so saying violence is the cause of wealth is patently untrue.

Ectier
May 23rd 2023


4646 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

Im not in the economics/captilisim/development feud but I've gotta say Groundkings that response is pretty solid. Respect the dedication

Sinternet
Emeritus
May 23rd 2023


26909 Comments


"Im not in the economics/captilisim/development feud but I've gotta say Groundkings that response is pretty solid. Respect the dedication"

no it isn't. its a bunch of imperialist apologism masquerading as an argument

the most telling part is here: "If this is not the case please explain how the west managed to conquer the world yet no other country did?"

which frankly is so historically inaccurate its mind-boggling. non-'western' empires were conquering massive areas of the world whilst much of western europe was still barely beyond tribal quarrels. his whole argument rests on the idea that the technological advancements that made expansion of empires over ocean possible only exist because of capitalism, which is frankly bafflingly stupid.



MiloRuggles
Emeritus
May 23rd 2023


3242 Comments


Capitalism killed my dog and laced my fields of rye with ergot and fuck is it just me or does incidental ingestion of hallucinogenic fungi kinda make all music sound good?

Ectier
May 23rd 2023


4646 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

Didnt mean to say it was factual more the size of the rebuttal was all i meant sinternet. My bad thanks for correcting my sleep deprived self

Groundking
May 23rd 2023


2436 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

'no it isn't. its a bunch of imperialist apologism masquerading as an argument'

lol

'which frankly is so historically inaccurate its mind-boggling. non-'western' empires were conquering massive areas of the world whilst much of western europe was still barely beyond tribal quarrels. his whole argument rests on the idea that the technological advancements that made expansion of empires over ocean possible only exist because of capitalism, which is frankly bafflingly stupid.'

:rollseyes: Ok do explain why Rome didn't end up conquering all of Africa, or why they failed to get to America, or why the many many many Chinese empires failed to get to America or to conquer India or why the various Indian empires never escaped the subcontinent and conquered eastern Africa.

Of course there were many huge empires but they were contiguous land empires. there are no other empires comparable to the globe straddling European Empires.

Please show me any other none European empire in history that looked like any of these;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/british-empire/img/7-1919.jpg?c=cb8de0d

https://study.com/cimages/multimages/16/empire_colonial_franais_1920493202424347193677.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Imperio_Espa%C3%B1ol_%281714-1800%29.png/250px-Imperio_Espa%C3%B1ol_%281714-1800%29.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/PortugueseColonialEmpire02.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/DutchEmpire4.png/500px-DutchEmpire4.png

https://external-preview.redd.it/NpvGB1ZdCFT-FmfKzP6rjoke7YwnNKCDgDfPrcxEdDo.png?auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6f479d00a528f940af21694860de18fe55919bc1



Gnocchi
Staff Reviewer
May 23rd 2023


18452 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

this thread isn't getting any better is it?

Tundra
May 23rd 2023


10756 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

Hopefully not

Ectier
May 23rd 2023


4646 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

It was chill for a little bit but i think its going off the rails again soon

Ectier
May 23rd 2023


4646 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

In other news Omnerods new records pretty solid

veninblazer
May 23rd 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Can we at least admit this is better than the new Cattle Decap lol

Demon of the Fall
May 23rd 2023


39133 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

last Cattle Decap was a 1.5 so it’s entirely possible (although not ‘likely’)…

I won’t be checking it out either way

Kusangii
May 23rd 2023


8522 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

Lol Cattle decap eat these clowns for breakfast

veninblazer
May 23rd 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I skimmed through Terrasite and every single section sounded nearly identical. It's one of the most samey records I've heard parts of. Couldn't even find the supposed cleans everyone was whining about. It doesn't help that Travis Ryan is a loser that encouraged doxing a literal child over the art being leaked.

Kusangii
May 23rd 2023


8522 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0 | Sound Off

And this album doesn't sound nearly identical?

veninblazer
May 23rd 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

No? Lmao this band can go from sounding one way to sounding completely different mid song. There's a consistent blend but they're all done in different orders and there's different stuff overall. Like I felt like I could have two songs on terrasite on in both ears and I would barely be able to make out a serious difference. That doesn't happen here.

Willie
Moderator
May 23rd 2023


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I was supposed to be the staff member reviewing this. I had never heard them, but picked up the dibs based on the hype and the cover by the Lorna Shore vocalist. After not connecting with this at all, I decided maybe I needed some context, so I went and listened to the previous two albums. After not connecting with them at all, I decided I just needed more repetition and familiarity with the new one. After still not connecting with this... I gave up and we featured the contrib review instead.



In all honesty, there are moments where this is really good, but it's too repetitious and minimalist at almost every other time. Also, they often feel like a one-trick pony, but the trick doesn't warrant repeated variations. The cover of "Hypnosis" also kind of led me to believe this would be different than it was. "Hypnosis" is almost like a darker post punk Deftones and is really good, but they never do that sound anywhere else across three albums.

veninblazer
May 23rd 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

I dont really think it's that repetitive there's maybe only one song? I'd say feels like a retread sonically of another really?

Willie
Moderator
May 23rd 2023


20674 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

The vocal melodies and the general energy levels is where most the repetition comes from, to me.

veninblazer
May 23rd 2023


20047 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Hmm. Fair enough ig. Tbh that's a criticism I have of a lot of "purely heavy" stuff



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