Album Rating: 5.0

well yes i agree there, and like i said i don't like how violent it was, but it's still just an overextension of a similar idea

Album Rating: 2.5

an ignorant, somewhat hurtful overextension yes

Album Rating: 5.0

'We can debate the cut-off of what consistutes "a few", but I'm sure we can all agree that not all police are racist or even bad people in any way, so there is literally no justification for hurling hatred towards the entire police community.'



yeah i do agree, i don't think hate is ever justified (well except for fascists), and what they said is dumb, not every cop is like that, but I doubt they actually believe that all cops should die, that's the kind of thing i would say as a joke around my mates, but there is still the massive and widespread problems and I do not know if there is a specific reason why they are saying this.

Album Rating: 2.5

they were prob frustrated at the time tbh like I was honestly. like I said ill still jam Whenever, If Ever but idk if I really wanna go out of my way to support this band anymore

Album Rating: 5.0

'an ignorant, somewhat hurtful overextension yes'



well yeah but at the end of the day there are many reasons why someone might feel that way, even if it is unnecessarily offensive

Album Rating: 5.0

like i said i don't support what the band said (was it the whole band or just one or two members?) but i completely understand how someone might come to express that point of view



hopefully at some point the kinds of discussions that could solve these issues can be done without hateful attitudes from people on both sides of the issue

Album Rating: 5.0

band was really nice when i saw them though so maybe it was just a particularly bad outburst

I think this conversation is fairly nicely-resolved at this point. We're all in agreement in one way or another. Maybe I will listen to these guys because the music is generally good, but sometimes it is hard to divorce the music from the person.

Album Rating: 2.5

exactly. a statement like theirs helps no one. but yeah what happened at the time of the tweet was shitty af and really frustrating.

on a different note idk why I don't like this album that much. whenever I listen to it I feel like it'd be perfect for me but nothing really hits home other than a few songs. their live performance when they toured with IIOI was less than impressive too so that prob didnt help

I only got into their earlier stuff. I like that January song from this a lot but never quite gave the album a good try.

Album Rating: 4.5

I find this album significantly more boring than Whenever, but when I'm in the right mood its great to chill to

Album Rating: 2.5

yeah that was my main issue too...seemed less lively/more boring than Whenever.

Album Rating: 4.0 | Sound Off

Just read a lot of the tweets

Yeah these guys are certified cocksuckers

you completely understand how someone can have the opinion that all cops should be murdered and that dallas was deserved? sinternet dude c'mon.

Album Rating: 2.5

dont start this argument again Futures we resolved it already

harambelessness

Album Rating: 3.5

honestly Derrick is the primary culprit in making these guys look bad, the rest of them seemed pretty nice when I saw them but Derrick stuck out like the sore thumb he is

well, him and that poet fuck cause I saw them on the Between Bodies tour and he tried improvising over the end of Getting Sodas and one of those "[screams internally]" pictures pretty much summed up how I felt about that

bring back tom

Album Rating: 3.5

oh hey I just remembered the Formlessness reboot is coming out Saturday



pls don't suck

Album Rating: 4.5

A formlessness reboot is coming?! Sweet