Steven Wilson Hand. Cannot. Erase.
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TalonsOfFire
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July 28th 2017


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Technically there's falsetto in those songs, but not really in the way he really goes for it in TTB. It was mostly just very brief or in the background, except yea in the choruses of Harmony Korine he totally does it.

He branches out on TTB in a lot of different ways, like taking over all guitar duties, trying to write the most impactful and excellent progressive pop rock that he can (and nailing it imo) and not just falling back on repeating what he knows worked for him before.

Something as simple as prominently having his face in the artwork and music videos for this album cycle (and Transience compilation, that was the beginning) really shows a lot more of him putting himself out there and growing as an artist, and I suppose a kind of pop star.

Let's be real though, most likely this album isn't going to sell much more than the previous ones have. But anything's possible. Only time will tell.

Tyler.
July 28th 2017


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hand. cannot. create good album.

artiswar
July 28th 2017


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stop it, my spleen

Jasdevi087
July 28th 2017


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Album Rating: 4.0

nah see I don't agree with any of that



taking over guitar duties, as a multi-instrumentalist and capable guitarist, is not "branching out"



He nailed progressive pop-rock over a decade ago and this is pretty recognisably Steven Wilson songwriting 101 (let's not forget that Blackfield exists)



and also the falsetto stuff on here is actually relatively brief too, you're just more aware of it cause he's going for higher notes more often

TalonsOfFire
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July 28th 2017


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The significance of taking over guitar duties was to not let a virtuoso guitarist like Guthrie Govan take over all the hard parts like he has for the past few albums, but for Wilson to do it all himself and just write the best music he can at his own skill level, cause he admits that Guthrie is more technically skilled.

TTB is better than any Blackfield album, and those were written more by someone else anyways.

I also said the falsetto was brief on the previous page, and yea he does make it more noticeable on TTB.

Jasdevi087
July 28th 2017


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i was referring more to Porcupine Tree when I said he nailed progressive pop rock over a decade ago, I was just bringing up Blackfield as a reminder that that's also a thing that happened

TalonsOfFire
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July 28th 2017


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I noticed more PT similarities in TtB than any of his other solo albums, but nothing like self-plagiarizing. The closest to that would be the loud guitar riffs in Asylum sounding like the end of Prodigal. He did write some progressive pop rock with PT at various times, but I appreciate that he brought it back on TtB and did more with it, as much as I enjoy the more abstract stuff like GfD.

smaugman
August 3rd 2017


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what do you guys think of the new song refuge? it had a bit slow start maybe but the rest was very solid

TalonsOfFire
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August 3rd 2017


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Oh he released Refuge? The full song? that's like the best song on the album, or Detonation.

Toondude10
August 3rd 2017


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Album Rating: 4.5

the whole album is great

Jasdevi087
August 4th 2017


8176 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Detonation is one of the worst

TalonsOfFire
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August 4th 2017


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Detonation is amazing especially the last third

Mythodea
August 4th 2017


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I've mixed feelings about the new album. The quality is there, but I really feel it disjointed. The pastiche approach doesn't work here, there's no cohesion. I feel he didn't quite go full pop or electronic and that's what drags the album down.



And Detonation is good, but only the latter part. Best songs for me here are Refuge, Song of Unborn and People Who Eat Darkness and of course Song of I. The rest range from great to ''not quite there''.

TalonsOfFire
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August 4th 2017


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I'm glad he didn't go full pop or electronic because the album as is is more interesting and diverse the way it came out.



Just like with this, the first 5 songs on TtB flow really well into each other, then the album gets a bit crazy in the middle, then has an epic second to last song, then closes with an emotional 7 minute ballad.

Jasdevi087
August 4th 2017


8176 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I fail to see how you're finding this album, which is an inconsistent hodgepodge of shit he's been doing for nearly 30 years, interesting and diverse

smaugman
August 4th 2017


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yet u give this 4?

Koris
Emeritus
August 4th 2017


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Album Rating: 5.0

The only Steven Wilson solo album I'm not particularly fond of (and I did listen to the new album) was Raven Who Refused to Sing, mainly because that seemed like the album that ripped off Wilson's 70s prog influences way too much. It practically didn't even sound like a Wilson album, tbh

Jasdevi087
August 4th 2017


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Album Rating: 4.0

"yet u give this 4?"



yeah cause this one's more consistent and doesn't pretend to be a pop album

TalonsOfFire
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August 4th 2017


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I agree that it's not pop, even Permanating kinda

Mythodea
August 7th 2017


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I would suggest a different song order. It's not thoroughly thought out, but imo it works better:



1. To the Bone

2. Nowhere Now

3. Permanating

4. Pariah

5. Same Asylum as Before

6. Refuge

7. Blank Tapes

8. Detonation

9. People who Eat Darkness

10. Song of I

11. Song of Unborn



What do you think?



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