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Mythodea
May 7th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Okay, let's go three pages back, because I am absent these days due to reasons. I saw Johnny's review of BRI and thought to myself, what the hell, let's relisten to this thing (I haven't in years, and only a couple of times total). BRI has some cool moments but sounds like they took whatever was left on the cutting floor and glued it together.



>1:12 - 3:10 is a circuitous overharmonised 6/8 snoozefest

It's getting repetitive, but the bass does some nice fiddling, so I don't mind



>7:30-8:51 is kinda dumb but ok let's roll with it

tbh it's one of the most enjoyable things on here.



>8:51 - 14:45 is classic and hands down the best thing opeth did idk probably

Best thing maybe no, but it's up there with the rest of the classics. It's the only part of the song I'd return to.



>16:36 is one of the most lol wtf is this happening guitar solos I can remember. hilariously dumb songwriting

It has some awkward placement, I give you that, but what's more annoying is the composition itself. Boring x 10 songwriting, as far as solos go.



Rest of the song is cool, and the closing minute is very dark and exciting. Overall, song could easily be cut in half, structured around the 9-15 minute part. It suffers too much from the 'going nowhere' factor as it's not cohesive enough to guarantee storytelling. There are some ''doom'' cliches, like the whispering lyrics, the whatever-sticks passages for guitars and the braindead title BLACK ROSE IMMORTAL that is literally the trinity of cliche doom/gothic words or/and iconography, surpassed only by Raven, maybe.



More of a song to listen to if you want to have an all-around knowledge of their discography.

Itwasthatwas
May 7th 2020


3182 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yeah I pretty much never go back to BRI. I like that album but there’s definitely a lot of immature songwriting choices, which Åkerfeldt will be the first to admit. Where was it he told the story of bringing a lute to the recording session? Roundhouse tapes maybe?

kalkwiese
May 7th 2020


11051 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yep, Roundhouse Tapes, The Night And The Silent Water. That song rules though

Shadowmire
May 7th 2020


6660 Comments


these sure are some takes

Itwasthatwas
May 7th 2020


3182 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

One thing I do really like about Morningrise is that you can tell they wrote a lot of the heavier parts on acoustic first

Demon of the Fall
May 7th 2020


39112 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

He told a condensed version of that lute story during the gig I went to a few years back.

BRI is what I like to refer to as a flawed masterpiece, ‘flawed’ is a technicality as well, one of those occasions where it shouldn’t always work but I love it regardless. Easy top 5 Opeth track.

kalkwiese
May 7th 2020


11051 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Yea, some things shouldn't work, but they somehow do and that's the magic

Trifolium
May 7th 2020


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Exactly, the magic of Orchid and especially Morningrise is that they work so incredibly well despite their flaws. I would not have them any other way.

Itwasthatwas
May 7th 2020


3182 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Orchid is a bit goofy at times but I still dig it

Trifolium
May 7th 2020


41141 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Cute goofiness. They were so young still too.

Itwasthatwas
May 7th 2020


3182 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

the Bon Jovi reverb on the drums in the under the weeping moon interlude midway through the song gets me laughing every time I hear it

Demon of the Fall
May 7th 2020


39112 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I hear they were a big influence.

Mythodea
May 7th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Orchid is awesome even for someone like me, who's not into that genre, Morningrise is a skip, save for same tracks. But really, MAYH is were the discussion really starts for me.

Demon of the Fall
May 7th 2020


39112 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

What genre, melo-death, or something more specific? Opeth appear to have created a unique brand of DM that doesn’t always translate very well across to other sub-genres. Most stuff I’ve heard that gets described as ‘Opethian’ is underwhelming to me.

Mythodea
May 7th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

no, I'm talking about this black doom gothic style, sth like Draconian would play

Source
May 7th 2020


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

The typical human ear cannot hear below 20 Hz so that is likely yes




legit silence after the perceived silence

bloc
May 7th 2020


70880 Comments


Speaking of, how come this band never did a cover of The Sound Of Silence

Mythodea
May 7th 2020


7459 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Covering the Sound of Silence would be a pretty disturbing thing to do, tbh

0GuyMan0
May 8th 2020


5648 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"Yea, some things shouldn't work, but they somehow do and that's the magic"



Describes Agalloch through Marrow as well.

Source
May 8th 2020


19917 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Covering the Sound of Silence would be a pretty disturbing thing to do, tbh




hheheh



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