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Rabid please watch Hans Rosling.

Album Rating: 2.5

But I'm of the opinion, that without a governing body there is no succesful society and a society (at least a society that exceeds 100/150 members and is not some hunter/gatherer tribe) that abandons a government will descend into chaos sooner or later.



So I appreciate the nuance, but the distinction isn't relevant in my opinion.

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Honestly it's a dumb argument because what you consider state vs. non essentially becomes an argument of state vs. de facto state and you're just splitting hairs.

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I love that the site's smarter users are here rn and I'm not having to wade through Smaugman posts itt god bless.

Album Rating: 2.5

"Honestly it's a dumb argument because what you consider state vs. non essentially becomes an argument of state vs. de facto state and you're just splitting hairs."



I'm not sure I follow tbh. Could you elaborate?

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I'm saying those who advocate "anarchy" in any of its forms end up structuring de facto states at the end of the day. It's not a productive conversation to have.

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Yeah I mean, if they structure a de-facto state, I'd tell them that that's not really anarchy. But I guess that's a very semantic argument.



When I was talking about anarchy I was thinking of a society that lacks any kind of central authority. Even if it's just a de-facto one.

Album Rating: 1.0

"lacks any kind of central authority"



It's called made-upsville.

Album Rating: 2.5

That was my point xD. Egalitarian societies are only thinkable in the context of a group of closely knit nomads or a really small tribal commune or something.



Edit: Yeah probably misunderstood you at some point.

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Honestly I think you just misunderstood who I was responding to originally.

Album Rating: 2.0

Ghost, the dude is obviously a ver smart man and he know his turf, but I find the PBI argument he makes, which basically is 'everybody is making more money' as if that means better life quality to be shaky at best. Besides, child mortality is just one of many factors that decide how good is the medical atention on a country, tho I guess that just having 20 min to talk made him trim most of his speech.



Anyways, though I agree with the contextualization of the 'global' issues around the world (child mortality, poverty, hunger, overpopulation), I'm not as optimistic as the man.

"Like half of this album is about justifying riots and killing ostensible oppressors."

Plenty of other albums have similar or darker themes. The majority of them don't really expect you to walk outside and harm someone. Also I'm pretty sure these guys will never be popular enough to seriously influence a large sect of people.

"It's not that I don't like their views, it's that their views are pitifully dumb and it's like listening to a 3rd grader condescendingly explain how the world works."

I don't know if you've been outside lately because a lot of people need things explained to them this way...lol
Personally I've never listened to one of these records and thought it was anything more than two guys enjoying making music. Coming at it from what seems to be your perspective it makes sense why you dislike it, I was just looking for a better explanation from you.

Album Rating: 4.5

"But I'm of the opinion, that without a governing body"



I think you misunderstand, anarchy isn't "no government". It's self-governing.

Album Rating: 4.5

Not advocating for it btw, just thought I'd chime in cuz anarchy is almost always misrepresented as some kind of permananent 'The Purge' situation.

Album Rating: 2.5

I mean album is a 1/10 for what it represents but I find the gimmick that El p is doing with this I guess. it really is formulaic and I dont like the lyrical content

Album Rating: 2.0

"But I'm of the opinion, that without a governing body there is no succesful society and a society (at least a society that exceeds 100/150 members and is not some hunter/gatherer tribe) that abandons a government will descend into chaos sooner or later.







So I appreciate the nuance, but the distinction isn't relevant in my opinion."



i think its safe to say that human nature dictates that a leader will always arise among a group of people, but i think it would be more beneficial to have smaller groups of people organizing themselves

Album Rating: 4.5

'1/10 for what it represents'



Really that bad? These don't seem like the sort of lyrics I'd sit down and analyse - a few jokes, some macho posturing, the occasional political beef...I don't get the feeling they're trying to put across some deep unified meaningful statement at all. Seems like the sort of stuff you'd write for a rap/rock crossover album featuring Zack de la Rocha.

Album Rating: 2.0

I think that the fact that Killer Mike is such a strong? political voice lately has made people overanalyse the lyrics.



Maybe then they can find something interesting about them :T

Album Rating: 1.0

"Seems like the sort of stuff you'd write for a rap/rock crossover album featuring Zack de la Rocha."



Hence the 1/10 yea.

Album Rating: 2.5

Thread has run out steam way before 50 pages. So. Sad.