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user
November 13th 2015


1592 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

thanks.

Lord(e)Po)))ts
November 13th 2015


70256 Comments


np.

user
November 13th 2015


1592 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

any specific tracks you'd recommend?



on second thought, upon a quick scan of your ratings, it doesn't seem like you're really chugging along on that slow-moving Grimes steam engine. any recommendations for similar artists?

Keyblade
November 13th 2015


30810 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

Oblivion and Genesis on Visions are good starting points. very good songs

user
November 13th 2015


1592 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0 | Sound Off

thanks, man. will check out when I can.

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0



"the failure of this website in a nutshell"

While I can see your point I disagree with that assessment. Everyone is free to decide however they want to enjoy (or not enjoy) any kind of art medium.



You CAN dig deeper if you want to, but it sure as hell isn't prerequisite for having an opinion about something or assessing your personal level of appreciation.



SapphireFace
November 13th 2015


73 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

Yeah that was a vast overstatement and besides what's the point of meaning if it's not executed in an effective way.

zakalwe
November 13th 2015


42012 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

What a bunch of tossers

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

^ That kind of misses the point, too. There is no "inherent" meaning even if the artist ascribes it such. Art is always a matter of interpretation, obviously more clearly articulated ideas are easier to extract.





"What a bunch of tossers"

I sure hope it's cabers they be tossin'.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
November 13th 2015


38391 Comments


"i guess there could, but i don't really care about any of that to be blunt. i just care about it sounding good


the failure of this website in a nutshell"


tbh this is a really elitist thing to say. i have no qualms with people going deeper when discussing music like this, but there's nothing wrong with somebody enjoying this simply because it sounds good to them. when it comes to music, typically the first response we have is whether or not it sounds good, not what subtextual meanings it may hold, and in grimes' case (for me, anyway) all other considerations fell away the first, second, and third times hearing it. it was just blissful, catchy-as-fuck straight-up pop music to me.

for the sake of engaging in the debate though, "why can't it be intentionally annoying/ugly?" i know the point you're making but i think this kind of answers itself. i don't at all find this annoying/ugly personally, but if i did i probably wouldn't be inclined to listen to it (more so if it were annoying, not ugly - i listen to plenty of objectively 'ugly' music, depending on how you define it). don't know how you can argue it's a fault with the listener, not the artist, if said listener is put off by something 'annoying'.

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I don't see how that is anyone's "fault" because that concept is inherently unfitting in this case.



It's not like there's some objective standard by which to measure any of those terms.

Ovrot
November 13th 2015


13303 Comments


whats going on guys
how much masturbation going on in here

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
November 13th 2015


38391 Comments


yeah i don't personally see this as annoying, but if it were who the fuck would seriously like it? you're right, it's too subjective anyway - a lot of people find joanna newsom annoying but to me she comes across as endearingly quirky

zakalwe
November 13th 2015


42012 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Imagine taking her out for a meal. Childish prattle would be 'endearing' for all of two minutes before you'd overturn the table and tell her to stop acting a twat.

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Sloppy comparison, also - again - subjective measurement of aesthetics and somesuch.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
November 13th 2015


38391 Comments


you're talking to zak, right?

Keyblade
November 13th 2015


30810 Comments

Album Rating: 5.0

"bh this is a really elitist thing to say. i have no qualms with people going deeper when discussing music like this, but there's nothing wrong with somebody enjoying this simply because it sounds good to them. when it comes to music, typically the first response we have is whether or not it sounds good, not what subtextual meanings it may hold, and in grimes' case (for me, anyway) all other considerations fell away the first, second, and third times hearing it. it was just blissful, catchy-as-fuck straight-up pop music to me."



agreed hard man

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

"you're talking to zak, right? "

lol, yes. we're essentially on the same page.



I was pecifically referring to comparing music and taking someone out to dinner and talking to them. That's just lopsided as hell.

Gyromania
Contributing Reviewer
November 13th 2015


38391 Comments


lol i assumed as much, just wanted to make sure since it seemed like you posted at nearly the same time as him

Wolfhorde
November 13th 2015


15387 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

I actually wonder whether Grimes has made any statements as to what plane is referring to - it doesn't seem improbable but it would be interesting to hear if the artist had a specific thing in mind.



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